THE OFFICIAL PS3 vs. XBOX360 vs. Wii thread

Which do you like better: 360, PS3, Wii

  • 360

    Votes: 117 43.7%

  • PS3

    Votes: 89 33.2%

  • Wii

    Votes: 62 23.1%
  • Total voters
    268
bigsaucybob said:
I really disagree. I definitely dont see hte PS3 of all the consoles to be the one to keep the kids quiet. I dont know about your parents but my parents wont be paying upwards of $600+ to keep me quiet.

The kids want the bragging rights, but without the cash they wont have anything. Your right, the parents dont care about the tech specs, they care about PRICE, the one thing the PS3 fails miserably on.
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oh they will care about price, but they will care more about keeping the kid quiet, and you'll be surprised how many will stump up the cash for this one......should see how much they were paying simply for preorders and such on the PS2 when it was released...yes it was cheaper but it was also some time ago.

Market forecasts are that the PS3 will top the charts by around 2009/2010.

I'm personally not advocating either console as the better console but looking at it logically and how consumers buy, the PS3 will take the lead in time. Look at the hype surrounding it and the attention being given to the console. Its far more than the Xbox360 had without a doubt. People want to know about this console and they want to buy it.

Many Xbox360 owners will go out and buy a PS3, more i would say than PS3 owners (in time) that go out and get an xbox360.

As i say, none of what im saying is going on which machine is better than the other. Because a huge proprotion of people will not investigate that deeply. They will hear the name Sony playstation and but it...simple really :)
 
I totally agree with the fact that we can't argue which console is better than the other.

The market habits are what I disagree about. I think that any parent that has a child they need to keep quiet is obviously young, and the Wii is going to be right up their alley. I really can't see a parent going out and buying their child a PS3, that is way too much technology for such a child.

I have seen plenty of hype for the PS3, but not all good hype. As I said before, when I went into Gamestop there were about 15-20 people waiting in line to pre-order Gears of War. The 3 employees behind the desk just basically started a big PS3 hate group. Everyone was dissing the PS3, and they were saying how they would never purchase it.

If I were a parent, not really knowing much and heard people talking like this. I would never buy a PS3. This might not seem like a big deal, but it will be. These 3 employees might not realize, but they could have a huge influence on people debating between consoles.

I really do not see what will make the PS3 that much better.
 
the brand name is big enough to make those sales happen, its like Nike and Adidas....they sell becuase of their name predominantly...its just the way it is. The biggest thing for selling and item is its brand, and for that Sony has the monopoly over the console market...its unquestionable.

PS3 will become the number 1 next gen console.....it might not be the right decision but it will happen.

As for the parents, they wont read things like this, so long as it keeps the kid happy thats enough. You'd be amazed at what a parent will do to keep the child happy, one day you might understand yourself. Believe me its a powerful thing!

As for the shop attendants, thats one shop and will most definately not be what will happen in the majority of retail stores once the consoles are realeased. They will be incentivised to encourage sales and so the staff will push. The amount of money that will go into the PS3 launch will rocket the product.

And the hype, it doesnt matter if its good hype or bad hype, its being talked about enough and thats all that matters. The masses dont know about the two consoles and what goes on inside them, they have no idea about which will be the better option blu ray or HD. They just know the name and its enough for them.

Ask around and you will find the the majority of people have absolutely no idea about the inner parts of just about any console on the market, they dont know what processor is running it or the graphics power that any can put out. They just know that a playstation is sony and the xbox is microsoft.

Advertising will not be about the insides and the technology, it will rely on the corporate branding of the product, and that will be sony's power!


edit: as a side note, the ps2's launch price was $300, less than the expected ps3 but we are talking 5 years ago now so at the time it was exrtemely expensive, yet it flew out of the stores. Even with the expected release of the xbox some 18 months down the line with much better hardware the ps2 rocketed. In japan alone it sold some 900,000 in its first weekend. Demand was so high that it was selling for nearly 5 times its value on ebay. Its main initial selling base was on the strength of the playstation brannd...people will pay!
 
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One thing to consider is the older crowd. The crowd of gamers who grew up in the 80s playing nintendo. A lot of us think the newer games are just graphics and crappy game play.

There is a huge market of gamers who are 25+ yrs of age. Take into account that at 25 you are supporting yourself so you don't have a huge amount of disposible income, if you have a family its even worse.

600 dollars for something my PC will do and do it much better is not a good deal in my mind. Sony is trying to replace all your home peripherals in one device. Good concept, not so good in real life. I am not about to put a single 600 dollar device in my home theatre that does everything. If one thing goes wrong I got to fork out another 600 dollars to replace it.

I think a lot of the younger kids who don't grasp this concept are going PS3, where as the older people who have been gaming for over 20 years, tend to think otherwise. This is just my generalization and may not reflect the truth of opinion, but I think I am somewhat on the right path of logic here.

Like I said earlier, I have gone through 2 xboxes and 3 PS2s, and my 8bit nintendo from 1987 still works great. Sony really has plummeted, in their market. Their car stereos suck, their tvs are mediocre at best, their computers suck, and they install root kits on their systems (at least they did), mini disk failed, beta max failed, they have a HUGE laptop battery recall right now. They are kind of in a slump, and I think they have a lot riding on the PS3. Which makes me even more skeptical.

Perhaps, once they work out the bugs, and it drops in price I may own one, but until then I am going to go 360 and Wii.
 
fair point tlarkin, to be honest i wouldnt really want to go for any of them myself. My only reason for the PS3 would be for particular titles but if i do go for it then i will wait for price drops well after launch date
 
It's totally true. Sony has had plenty of other things to worry about now, and I have a feeling this will show with their new console.

As I have said before, your right the consumer is not looking at the specs. They are looking at the price, and it is expensive. Ecspecially considering it doesnt come with HD cables, but thats another story. As said before, I showed my mom the PS3 and the price, and I got a laugh in my face. NO WAY would my parents pay for that. I do not think the average parental consumer is going to throw out $600+ for their child to "be kept quiet".

And times have changed, not everyone sees Sony as the leader in consoles. If you have opened your eyes recently, anyone can see Microsoft has a very very strong influence on the gaming market. So I do not think the PS3's will sell from brand alone, although im sure it will help.

It might be one store talking trash, but they all think the same. They all collaborate and talk to eachother, news travels fast. My cousin in AZ said the same thing about his Gamestop. Thats NY to AZ, pretty far apart and saying the same thing.
 
I'm just going to randomly comment on HD as it was talked about a fair bit earlier in this thread. Microsoft has released their HD 1080p patch which is carried over the analog RGB cables. Many people are very happy with this and it seems that it looks fantastic :). Way to go Microsoft!

Oh did I mention that some have hosed their systems updating them with the patch? well they did, however, Microsoft is replacing those units.
 
bigsaucybob said:
. If you have opened your eyes recently, anyone can see Microsoft has a very very strong influence on the gaming market. .
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if i opened my eyes? i think my eyes are wide open thank you, hence why i am trying to take an overall view of things rather than being a fan of a particular system and fighting its cause :rolleyes: I have openly admitted that i have no preference over each of the consoles, i couldnt care less which one is more powerful than the other, i am simply trying to show the reasons as to why the PS3 will wibn the next gen war, not because i want it to, but becauase looking at the information available it will win!

My points have come from looking at market trends, looking over the internet at what various views have been from people within the gaming market and they all agree that the PS3 will become the number 1 console of the next generation.

Sales people will not be telling people to steer clear of the PS3 once its released and incetivised. Its just not going to happen, if they know they can make commision or win some extra sony gooides by pushing the PS3 then they most certainly will be pushing it.

Sony still at THE brand for the console market, thats not changed, yes microsoft are showing that they can be a big part of that market but sony are the ones to beat and their brand and the playstation branding will be strong enough to push their sales to a amaximum from launch. As mentioned before the PS2 made most of its initial sales on its name alone.

Its interesting to note that the 360 is falling around half a million units short of its north american sales projection. Microsoft planned to have sold 10 million units worldwide by the time PS3 is launched. It wanted this share of the market in order to hold its dominance over the market. Yet it currently stands at 6 million sold, so its some 4 million short with very little time left to go. I cant see that prediction being hit.

the 360 has not penetrated the japan market anywhere near as well as it wanted to which will be a major blow to them

Perhaps if you opened your] eyes you would see that Ps3 is almost certain to win the war, maybe not by the landslide that the PS2 won last time but it will none the less
 
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I was not specifically mentioning you to open your eyes. I was saying that if anyone has opened their eyes they can see that Microsoft now has a very strong influence in the gaming market. I was not targeting just you to open your eyes.

I don't know where you have been looking but I am seeing things very differently. Wherever I look there is news about PS3 shortages and PS3 prices and criticism about delays and Blu-Ray. And I am looking on neutral sites, not Xbox forums.
 
Microsoft does do one thing, they buy up any company with any sort of talent. So, they do influence the market in some way.

I am not convinced that the PS3 will end up leading the market, not at all. I think it is bound to have numerous problems just like the rest of Sony's crappy all around products these days.
 
tlarkin said:
Microsoft does do one thing, they buy up any company with any sort of talent. So, they do influence the market in some way.

I am not convinced that the PS3 will end up leading the market, not at all. I think it is bound to have numerous problems just like the rest of Sony's crappy all around products these days.
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Agreed, with their recent trend I see something going wrong.

I think Microsoft has played the market 100X better than Sony.
 
Im not so sure about what the outcome will be... but i thin the extreme price of the PS3 will be the point with the most influence.

I look at it this way, the ps3 is ment only for gaming,.. the games will cost a lot too (as any other console, grafic's never bothered me very much,.. i still play the NES and the N64 on my room) For i think 70~80% of the people gameplay and price will decide what console they will buy,.. and i think this point is a bit in favour of the 360, because ist much cheaper, with simmilair gameplay :)

my point of view, noone has to agree with it ofcourse :o
 
bigsaucybob said:
I was not specifically mentioning you to open your eyes. I was saying that if anyone has opened their eyes they can see that Microsoft now has a very strong influence in the gaming market. I was not targeting just you to open your eyes.

I don't know where you have been looking but I am seeing things very differently. Wherever I look there is news about PS3 shortages and PS3 prices and criticism about delays and Blu-Ray. And I am looking on neutral sites, not Xbox forums.
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IGN predict the sales of ps3 to marginally out do XBOX360 by 2010, citigroup are predicitng similar but by 2009 and japanese analysts expect around 2009 too. These will all be looking at market trends on purchases etc. Plus as i stated before, the 360 is currently selling below microsofts predictions and has not taken the japanese market anywhere near as well as it had hoped.

Going back to the pricing issue, the price of the PS3 will fall, and probably quite early to be fair, its exactly what they did with the previous two generations of the console, high price initially and then upon dropping the price soon after launch they saw the units sold spiking and remaining high.
 
jimmymac said:
Going back to the pricing issue, the price of the PS3 will fall, and probably quite early to be fair, its exactly what they did with the previous two generations of the console, high price initially and then upon dropping the price soon after launch they saw the units sold spiking and remaining high.
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and what do you think will happen to the price of the 360? Microsoft isnt stupid,. and those predictions are pretty much based on the excpectation that the 360 doesnt get anything new added or so anymore, but who know's.. maybe MS will come up with something fance again :)
nevertheless.. noone can be certain of anything, its all jsut best guess, wich you cant really rely on anyway,... so lets just sit back and see what happens :o
 
Archangel said:
and what do you think will happen to the price of the 360? Microsoft isnt stupid,. and those predictions are pretty much based on the excpectation that the 360 doesnt get anything new added or so anymore, but who know's.. maybe MS will come up with something fance again :)
nevertheless.. noone can be certain of anything, its all jsut best guess, wich you cant really rely on anyway,... so lets just sit back and see what happens :o
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the predicitons are in now way based on 360 getting nothing new added, its based on all the information thats available on the futures of both consoles. Both will no doubt be adding extra pieces to the systems

And of course microsoft will drop their prices, they have done already, but if the playstation 3 comes down to a more "affordable" level then it wont matter what the 360 drops to


anyways, i cant see any point in carrying this one on, i've said my piece and based it on variying views from across various research. Believe what you will but our first indication will be a few weeks after the PS3 launch
 
Archangel said:
Im not so sure about what the outcome will be... but i thin the extreme price of the PS3 will be the point with the most influence.

I look at it this way, the ps3 is ment only for gaming,.. the games will cost a lot too (as any other console, grafic's never bothered me very much,.. i still play the NES and the N64 on my room) For i think 70~80% of the people gameplay and price will decide what console they will buy,.. and i think this point is a bit in favour of the 360, because ist much cheaper, with simmilair gameplay :)

my point of view, noone has to agree with it ofcourse :o
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i see you say the 360 is cheaper than the PS3... but look at the price if you put a HD-DVD disc drive into a 360, and the PS3 comes stock with one... the prices level with both versions of the PS3... plus you don't have to pay 50 bucks a year for online service and the console looks like it will kill the 360 in terms of graphics, game size, etc...

personally i own a 360 and will buy a PS3 after the holiday when you can find them...
 
just let me ask 1 thing... why does it matter? I mean, if you're buying a system, and you like it, does it matter if some other system gets sold more?
I just read the whole discussion again, and i find it to look pretty childish now.. everyone want to belong to the majority it seems =]
 
the thread is about ps3 vs xbox 360, what were you expecting the discussions to be about in here? I couldnt care about either majority, just looking at which will be the top runner in years to come.
 
jimmymac said:
the thread is about ps3 vs xbox 360, what were you expecting the discussions to be about in here? I couldnt care about either majority, just looking at which will be the top runner in years to come.
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Umm...it's actually about all 3 systems. Wii, 360, and PS3...
 
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