If you insist on comparing a PC to a Mac read this first

you guys are actually still debating this.....?

first off you need to be specific on what your comparing

If you say PC are you meaning windows comp or linux etc
are we including Components or just OS

what need to be listed is pro/con of each system

Mac
Pros
  • Looks good
  • Good at rendering
  • Good at music and movies
Cons
  • Has a game deficiency
  • Hard to upgrade components
  • you look like a cock using one

PC
Pros
  • Can look good
  • Good at Games
  • Wide vairety of programs
  • can do music and video editing
Cons
  • More known viruses


to end this thread

PLEASE NOTE MAY NOT BE SUITABLE FOR EVERYONE

One thing macs can do that PCs cant
 
you guys are actually still debating this.....?

first off you need to be specific on what your comparing

If you say PC are you meaning windows comp or linux etc
are we including Components or just OS

what need to be listed is pro/con of each system

Mac
Pros
  • Looks good
  • Good at rendering
  • Good at music and movies
Cons

  • [*]Has a game deficiency
    [*]Hard to upgrade components
    [*]you look like a cock using one

PC
Pros
  • Can look good
  • Good at Games
    [*]Wide vairety of programs
  • can do music and video editing
Cons
  • More known viruses


to end this thread

PLEASE NOTE MAY NOT BE SUITABLE FOR EVERYONE

One thing macs can do that PCs cant

Considering a Mac can run Windows and Windows apps the points you made in bold are invalid. Again, you are just trolling, please leave the thread, and see my posts on actually comparing the two platforms.
 
Im not exactly debating... just asking questions. MAC vs PC is like Democrats vs Republicans.... no one is right... no one is wrong. its not like we are talking about what makes a better pet a Dog or a giraffe.
 
Considering a Mac can run Windows and Windows apps the points you made in bold are invalid. Again, you are just trolling, please leave the thread, and see my posts on actually comparing the two platforms.

then shouldn't the cost of the windows OS be included into your cost of your mac other wise it isn't competing at all on the games front...?
 
then shouldn't the cost of the windows OS be included into your cost of your mac other wise it isn't competing at all on the games front...?

This only applies to total cost of ownership and if the user wanted to play all the games on their mac. Gaming is really a niche market. So, yes, if that is a deal breaker for you, then I would have to add the cost of OEM Windows to the Mac for it to compare to your custom built PC, but notice in my comparison I didn't even list OSes for either machine. So, the added cost would be mirrored to the custom built PC I had listed earlier.
 
your comparison is good but only show one small sliver of the market place if you go to cheaper desktop or more expensive ones you will find that PC are alot better price wise
 
your comparison is good but only show one small sliver of the market place if you go to cheaper desktop or more expensive ones you will find that PC are alot better price wise

It is still not a valid comparison then, and goes to the overall cost of ownership to you. Since, to you some features may not matter, or you may be not aware of the differences, but that doesn't mean a Mac is over priced.

Like I said, people keep posting cheap (sub $500) 27" displays and try to compare it. Unless you work on an IPS screen all day like I have on my new iMac recently you would be ignorant to the differences. Especially if you are going back and forth.

I literally have two iMacs I am working on right now. The new iMac is running an instaDMG compile so I am using it to browse the web while the new master image is compiling and the second imac is compiling packages for me in Casper Admin, so both are being utilized by semi intensive CPU tasks and I am working back and forth between them both. Every single time I switch back to the LED screen I immediately miss the IPS screen. Is this a deal breaker for me if I were to spend my own money (ie these were not machines my work bought me) then maybe I'd consider building a PC over the iMac, but I do need the Macs for work. I never knew the different off paper until recently when I snagged up a new iMac from our storage facility when they got dropped off a few months ago. I am just now hooking it up and using it, it sat on a bench and was a test machine for imaging for several months. Now that the imaging testing is done I have converted it to a second work station and am now using it with work.

If you have no desire to learn or care how a computer works and just want to use it, and you prefer windows over Mac or vice versa your mind is already made up. However, if you want to compare the two at price versus feature versus spec to spec and total cost of ownership then you need to take it all into account before making a judgment on what is over priced and what is not over priced. This will also tell you if a Mac is for you or not. Most people on this forum try to argue different with me, and I have been professionally using and support macs for 11 years almost now, and PCs and Windows since the early 90s (though I wasn't doing it professionally in the early 90s) and they use the most ridiculous claims with no facts.

It is a lot like democrats versus republicans, people like to leave out facts and argue opinion more than anything, and I am simply trying to use facts to compare the two.
 
whats this cost of ownership you keep raving on about i have 4 computers running right now and since building them have not cost me a cent more then that price?
 
whats this cost of ownership you keep raving on about i have 4 computers running right now and since building them have not cost me a cent more then that price?

Go back and reread what I said about total cost of ownership, it is what you personally pay to own something, and it is not always in dollars and cents. That is more of a personal opinion than it is fact and everyone will differ when they define total cost of ownership.
 
Go back and reread what I said about total cost of ownership, it is what you personally pay to own something, and it is not always in dollars and cents. That is more of a personal opinion than it is fact and everyone will differ when they define total cost of ownership.

1) Initial out of pocket costs
2) return investment
3) labor you need to put in yourself or pay for work done
4) resell value
5) down time
6) features and benefits

whats this got to do with saying macs are better?
 
1) Initial out of pocket costs
2) return investment
3) labor you need to put in yourself or pay for work done
4) resell value
5) down time
6) features and benefits

whats this got to do with saying macs are better?

Do you ever research things before you purchase them and critically think about all aspects of the total cost of ownership? Macintosh computers have historically proven to last longer, their life is about 5 years before you got to replace them. When 10.5 came out I was running it on a 5 year old G5 desktop. How many 5 year old PCs can run Vista or Windows 7 and do it efficiently? Therefore you are spending money at less intervals, thus going into the overall cost of ownership.

Then you want to sell your old mac and buy a new one, and you realize the 5 year old mac still has some resell value, you are getting more return on your investment over a PC.

Total cost of ownership is a very broad concept and it doesn't apply to those things I listed exclusively, and it can be defined many different personal ways.

I am not quite sure how much more clear I can be on this.
 
Id love to see some facts on you comment saying macs last longer i personally believe its in how the computer is maintained

secondly after having a quick look on a few online auction sites in my country and find there are bucket loads of old PC selling for $400-600

so you can basically wipe half of your *Cost of ownership* as its equal and it is in the end how you treat your computer
 
not comparable, where is the IPS support? I have two iMacs on my desk right now, one is 3 years old and the other is brand new. The 22" IPS screen looks leagues and leagues better. It has way more color depth than your normal LED back lit LCD.

Go back to what I first posted and you need to research the specs, the features, and overall cost of ownership to actually really compare a Mac to a PC. You failed to match the specs on that monitor to what is built in on an iMac.

Those are great monitors and great prices though. I got myself a 22" Samsung last year and I love it.
You can get an NEC 23" 1080p IPS display for $350(At one point with a coupon code it was available for $279)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16824002524

Sadly though, its not led backlit as well.
 
Id love to see some facts on you comment saying macs last longer i personally believe its in how the computer is maintained

secondly after having a quick look on a few online auction sites in my country and find there are bucket loads of old PC selling for $400-600

so you can basically wipe half of your *Cost of ownership* as its equal and it is in the end how you treat your computer

A PC that is 5 years old sells for that much? I am glad I live in America then.
 
but you agree it all depend on how the computer is treated rather then type

No, you missed my point. I said show me a 5 year old computer that can run Windows 7 efficiently as a 5 year old computer that runs Snow Leopard. I was talking that Macs, historically tend to last longer with newer OS updates versus a PC with Windows. This has always been the case, but Apple's business model has higher quality control.
 
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