GTX460 vs HD 5770

BurningSkyline

BurningSkyline

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GTX460 vs HD HD 5830

Just compare them. I'm wondering what I should get because well.. I want to get the right card for what I'm doing. Which is gaming, and video editing. I'll be working with after effects cs4 here and there as well.
 
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the gtx460 will usually get almost double the frames that the 5770 would and it is about $50 more. if you can spend the extra, you should probably get the 460.
 
BurningSkyline said:
Sorry everybody, I made a typo. I meant the HD 5830. should I make a new topic, or have people keep reading this one?
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just keep going with this. i think if you "go advanced" after hitting the edit button you can change the title.

i would probably go with the 5830 then.
 
joh06937 said:
just keep going with this. i think if you "go advanced" after hitting the edit button you can change the title.

i would probably go with the 5830 then.
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Thanks for the topic title help, appreciate it. :)

But yeah, which would be better for gaming? ae cs4?

If you've been looking around my threads for the past few weeks, you know I want to build a budget pc. I want to build with $600, but $800 will be the outcome more or less. Also, which quad-core processor runs well with each of these cards?
 
The GTX460 card is the first good fermi card and one worth buying. Get the 1gb version since it is the "only" one people want. Skip the 5830 if these are your two choices.
 
Gabe63 said:
The GTX460 card is the first good fermi card and one worth buying. Get the 1gb version since it is the "only" one people want. Skip the 5830 if these are your two choices.
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How many monitors can be connected to a GTX460? I really like eyefinity, and want to upgrade to more monitors.
 
BurningSkyline said:
How many monitors can be connected to a GTX460? I really like eyefinity, and want to upgrade to more monitors.
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that's actually one of the reasons i recommended the 5830. i personally love eyefinity and, for the performance gain vs. cost with the 5830 vs. the 460 (460 performs a little better all around but is a little more), i think it basically comes down to the different "extras" that come with each card.

however, when it comes to driving an eyefinity setup, it does take a bigger toll on your system. you might want to also check out the 5850.
 
BurningSkyline said:
How many monitors can be connected to a GTX460? I really like eyefinity, and want to upgrade to more monitors.
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2 displays on one card, you can run a triple display setup with two cards in SLI however, as it supports NV Surround.
joh06937 said:
that's actually one of the reasons i recommended the 5830. i personally love eyefinity and, for the performance gain vs. cost with the 5830 vs. the 460 (460 performs a little better all around but is a little more), i think it basically comes down to the different "extras" that come with each card.

however, when it comes to driving an eyefinity setup, it does take a bigger toll on your system. you might want to also check out the 5850.
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The 460 also scales quite well in SLI, while the radeon cards don't scale as well.
 
joh06937 said:
that's actually one of the reasons i recommended the 5830. i personally love eyefinity and, for the performance gain vs. cost with the 5830 vs. the 460 (460 performs a little better all around but is a little more), i think it basically comes down to the different "extras" that come with each card.

however, when it comes to driving an eyefinity setup, it does take a bigger toll on your system. you might want to also check out the 5850.
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5850, quad-core, with a budget? Gotta remember I need to buy a monitor, keyboard, etc.

But could somebody explain what CUDA does, and what difference it would make?
And Physx. Because if I had a physx card, lets say, a a 8800GT, how would gaming performance Change? I'm mostly a console gamer, but I want that power to play games when I Can. I'm into some simulators... FSX, X-Plane, Ship simulators and train simulators, etc. Also, Grand theft auto games. I will probably never buy another grand theft auto game for a console.

But, I've heard some of ATi's can be modified to have a Geforce card for physx.
 
BurningSkyline said:
How many monitors can be connected to a GTX460? I really like eyefinity, and want to upgrade to more monitors.
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I did not see that eyefinity is a deciding factor. If this is a must get a 5850. I do not see the 5830 as a good value. Look for a used ASUS. Many expect the newer 6 series to include true 3 monitor support. Any current card needs an active addaptor for eyefinity ($$$). The GTX 460 1GB is the best bang for the buck ,not the single fastest card, right now. Were are talking right now.

One thing I have learnt is today is today with tech. If you need 3 monitors just get a 5770 for $140. If will be replaced soon...
 
BurningSkyline said:
5850, quad-core, with a budget? Gotta remember I need to buy a monitor, keyboard, etc.

But could somebody explain what CUDA does, and what difference it would make?
And Physx. Because if I had a physx card, lets say, a a 8800GT, how would gaming performance Change? I'm mostly a console gamer, but I want that power to play games when I Can. I'm into some simulators... FSX, X-Plane, Ship simulators and train simulators, etc. Also, Grand theft auto games. I will probably never buy another grand theft auto game for a console.

But, I've heard some of ATi's can be modified to have a Geforce card for physx.
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physx can help in the games that use it (there really aren't very may out there). some have extra "eye candy," such as batman arkham asylum or the new mafia ii game, while others will use it to offload the cpu, possibly improving performance. yes there are ways to make it work (see my sig ;)). if you can find a really good deal on an nvidia card, like a 220, then i'd recommend considering it. although it would be a good idea to just go with a 460 if you plan on immediately buying a physx card (5830+another card would be more than the 460 alone which has physx support already).

bomberboysk said:
The 460 also scales quite well in SLI, while the radeon cards don't scale as well.
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i definitely agree there, but what was your point? sli 460s?
 
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I don't think I'd EVER use 3 monitors, Well, not until I get into all this social networking crap. But two monitors will be enough for everyday computing like I do. So, Should I go with a GTX 460 and a cheap 9 series card? Or save the money, buy two Cheap 9 series cards, run them with SLI and wait till something else is released?

And by the way, I'm not extremely computer savvy. Not to mention a ATi fanboy...
 
BurningSkyline said:
5850, quad-core, with a budget? Gotta remember I need to buy a monitor, keyboard, etc.

But could somebody explain what CUDA does, and what difference it would make?
And Physx. Because if I had a physx card, lets say, a a 8800GT, how would gaming performance Change? I'm mostly a console gamer, but I want that power to play games when I Can. I'm into some simulators... FSX, X-Plane, Ship simulators and train simulators, etc. Also, Grand theft auto games. I will probably never buy another grand theft auto game for a console.

But, I've heard some of ATi's can be modified to have a Geforce card for physx.
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CUDA is not for gaming, CUDA allows processing to be offloaded to the GPU, some areas in which this can be used are certain media encoders, folding@home, rendering, among others.

As far as a discreet PhysX card, there are ways to run an nVidia card dedicated for PhysX, but this is not officially supported by nVidia and with current drivers won't work. Certain drivers do work, but again, that is neither officially endorsed nor supported by nVidia.

joh06937 said:
physx can help in the games that use it (there really aren't very may out there). some have extra "eye candy," such as batman arkham asylum or the new mafia ii game, while others will use it to offload the cpu, possibly improving performance. yes there are ways to make it work (see my sig ;)). if you can find a really good deal on an nvidia card, like a 220, then i'd recommend considering it. although it would be a good idea to just go with a 460 if you plan on immediately buying a physx card (5830+another card would be more than the 460 alone which has physx support already).



i definitely agree there, but what was your point? sli 460s?
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Drop in upgrade in the future, two 460's in SLI will beat a 480 at a lower cost. And performance/dollar and performance/watt the 460 also beats out the 5830. Plus by the time you spend the extra for a 5850, plus a $100 active display adapter for eyefinity, you could pickup two 460's and use NV surround.


BurningSkyline said:
I don't think I'd EVER use 3 monitors, Well, not until I get into all this social networking crap. But two monitors will be enough for everyday computing like I do. So, Should I go with a GTX 460 and a cheap 9 series card? Or save the money, buy two Cheap 9 series cards, run them with SLI and wait till something else is released?

And by the way, I'm not extremely computer savvy. Not to mention a ATi fanboy...
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Any single nvidia card will run two monitors....Hence the twin DVI outputs. Two cards are required only for 3 displays with nVidia. No need for two cards...
 
BurningSkyline said:
I don't think I'd EVER use 3 monitors, Well, not until I get into all this social networking crap. But two monitors will be enough for everyday computing like I do. So, Should I go with a GTX 460 and a cheap 9 series card? Or save the money, buy two Cheap 9 series cards, run them with SLI and wait till something else is released?

And by the way, I'm not extremely computer savvy. Not to mention a ATi fanboy...
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oh i thought you meant a 3 monitor setup. i'd definitely go with the 460 then. if you feel you absolutely need to, down the road you can always add a dedicated physx card. but you really won't need it right away.

bomberboysk said:
Drop in upgrade in the future, two 460's in SLI will beat a 480 at a lower cost. And performance/dollar and performance/watt the 460 also beats out the 5830. Plus by the time you spend the extra for a 5850, plus a $100 active display adapter for eyefinity, you could pickup two 460's and use NV surround.
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yeah but then you're kind of outta luck 1 year later when you want to add something else to improve performance without having to try and sell the cards. besides, i am cheap and would just go with a $20 analog adapter :P
 
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Any single nvidia card will run two monitors....Hence the twin DVI outputs. Two cards are required only for 3 displays with nVidia. No need for two cards...
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I mentioned two cards because I was curious to see if buying two cheap cards, 9400GT's, 9500GT's, 9600GT's, etc. would be good temporarily until I can afford to purchase a better card. I don't plan on playing too many demanding games too soon, because nothing really appeals to me quite yet.

I'm silver now, haha :D
 
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