Dragon Age: Origins

Twist86 said:
He asked me what it is like...FFT you can move based off a set path with random encounters...your stuck to the "field" they make for you. There is nothing "open" about this world.
So I think its a perfect example even for a turn base...or if you want a better game is a crappier version of NWN2 except you can bang multiple companions and even unlock a threesome.

Comparing this game to KOTOR is cruel because KOTOR was actually good and was done right, sadly it just wasn't hard enough though ^-^
DA there is MUCH to be desired and I am hoping the modding community will fix the game right.
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I like the game and I think it comes down to a couple certain things. In any game you play there will always be the off balance exploits, like you mentioned earlier.

The game plays exactly like KOTOR and is really more challenging. If you just run through the game with the same over powered tactic over and over again you are missing what the game is about. Same thing in KOTOR, once you got an AOE stun the game was ridiculous easy, so I played the game with out that skill and found it more challenging.

I found NWN2 convoluted, and not that challenging at all, in fact, I would say there is more skill/spell exploitation in NWN2. I had item/skill combo on my monk that basically permanently stunned everything he hit, and with the monk speed i could run circles round pretty much every boss, stun the crap out of them over and over again, and if they regained run circles around them and repeat.

The story line is a linear path, but it is open to how you complete it. Plus there are a lot of side quests that have nothing to do with the story line. It is almost just as open as say Oblivion is in many regards, as if you follow the main story line you can finish the game, or you can explore all over and do lots of side quests.

I mean what exactly is open world? Really, no game is truely open world. I can't go around killing whomever I want, regardless, and I can't go beat the game in the first 5 minutes of game play like some of the older open world games that really started the whole concept.

Sounds like the game just wasn't for you. I think it is pretty sweet and I think with DLC they will add some cool stuff. Just my opinion.
 
tlarkin said:
2 of the best games ever made. Awesome story line, hilarious interactions, ultra violence, and all before the whole video game rating system ever happened. That was back in the 'wild west' days of gaming where there were no regulations.

While, I do love Fallout 3, over all I think it is a bit lacking in a few areas compared to the first game. However, I think that Fallout 3 is pretty awesome game. I just don't find myself going back to it over and over again like I did the first two over the years.
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I am definitely getting them off steam then :D
I think Fallout 3 would've been a lot better if there was more quest and maybe some factions to join with quests
 
computernoob1 said:
I am definitely getting them off steam then :D
I think Fallout 3 would've been a lot better if there was more quest and maybe some factions to join with quests
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in Fallout 3 they also took out groin shots. You used to be able to target your enemies groin, and then beat it over and over again with an iron rod. Can't do that any more, and you can't beat or kill children. You also can't kill NPCs, like you could in the first one.

So much for your open world.
 
tlarkin said:
in Fallout 3 they also took out groin shots. You used to be able to target your enemies groin, and then beat it over and over again with an iron rod. Can't do that any more, and you can't beat or kill children. You also can't kill NPCs, like you could in the first one.

So much for your open world.
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why would you want to :P

and with mods, you can kill children, but again, why?

There is a mod that is on nexus, like any moddable game, that lets you make people naked and the mods of nexus had to close the comments on most of them because pedos were coming in getting all angry that the children couldn't be made naked...some damn strange people in this world (like you wanting to beat on a crotch :P)

also with mods you can add more quests, so it stays fun, and you can also get factions and you can even build your own city...mods, aren't they great :good:
 
Aastii said:
why would you want to :P

and with mods, you can kill children, but again, why?

There is a mod that is on nexus, like any moddable game, that lets you make people naked and the mods of nexus had to close the comments on most of them because pedos were coming in getting all angry that the children couldn't be made naked...some damn strange people in this world (like you wanting to beat on a crotch :P)

also with mods you can add more quests, so it stays fun, and you can also get factions and you can even build your own city...mods, aren't they great :good:
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Because in the original game, I could walk up to some NPC I was suppose to do a quest for to get some dumb item to advance the story line but instead I walked up to him and beat him in the groin with a tire iron and took the item instead. Still progressed the story line and I still beat the game but with a way more evil way of doing it.

Sometimes you don't want to do stupid quests and you just want to beat the dude in the groin with a tire iron and take it from him. Is that so much to ask?

Also, children are annoying, I shot them in the game because they ran around a lot. In Fallout 2 I think there is some kid who's mommy is a junkie and hooked on Jet, and I shot the kid to put him out of his misery. When I play an evil character I like to be really evil. Also in Fallout 2, you can get caught with the farmer's daughter and he forces you to marry her, at shotgun point (literally a shotgun wedding) and when you get to New Reno you can make her do porns or pimp her out on the streets for money.

I am just bringing up that games back then could do that stuff because the general public had no idea game developers were doing such things.

Do, I really want to beat children in the groin with a blunt object? No, not really, but it is not like video games really make people violent or sick. I mean that is just a problem with people. The Bible has more violence and debauchery than any video game does, yet it is not banned from anywhere.

If developers want a true open world, then I should shoot the guy holding the item in his balls, and take it from him if I don't want to do his retarded quest to kill a bunch of mutant rats in some basement.
 
lmao, I actually fully understand you now, if you have an evil character it would be much better to beat the guy with a tyre iron in the crotch :D

What I would like to happen (but it never will) is for all the game developers to get together and for one game only they are allowed to have it as open as they want, whatever themes they want, whatever content they want without it being dumbed down or being made more pc or anything like that, I think they could make possibly the greatest game ever seen without the filthy hand of the authorities meddling with it.

Apparently when HL2 was first made they had to change the sounds they used for the zombies bceause they were too realistic and too scary, I think that is taking it a little too far
 
I still think it deserves the scores it has been getting, the graphics are good if you have a pc to maximize it. I think it is one of the better looking RPG's, ever. I found oblivion to be rather boring compared to this, however Fallout 3 was good. Who ever it was who compared this to FFT I really doubt has played this game, it doesn't feel at all like that. That comment surprised me quite a bit. I have gone about 10 hours into it with 3 different characters trying to find the right hero for myself and I haven't got bore of it and this was almost consecutively. I think it is well made and a great balance of action, exploration, and NPC interaction. It is not entirely unique but certainly refined, the console version is lacking a bit, graphically and I heard it was much less difficult than the PC version. This game IMO was intended for the PC. Bioware is not going to spend this kinda money in development and marketing for a PC only game, it makes me happy actually, I am sure they spent more time and money on it knowing the sales for the consoles would help. Easily a 9/10 IMO.

Maybe I just like it more because it reminds me of the hours spent playing Baldurs Gate 2 in junior high, that was 10 years or so ago though...
 
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It is suppose to be the rebirth of Baldur's Gate (glad I didn't use the term after birth eh?) and some consider it what a modern Baldur's Gate would be.

You see Fallout 3, is modernized but it is not really the same game as the previous ones. Of course the previous ones were old and out dated too, so it is give and take, from many different perspectives.

It is nothing like FF Tactics at all. I played FF Tactics to it's fullest. I unlocked every character, mastered every job class, found every item, and beat the game numerous times. I made my group so powerful I could kill the main boss of the game in a few short rounds with out ever healing myself.

This game is like KOTOR, but fantasy instead of Star Wars.
 
ETSA said:
Well, both are made by bioware.
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Oh yeah I know, but some people are saying it is not like KOTOR, and game mechanics it is. Bioware also made the first NWN I think...then third party made the rest of them.

Their core RPG engine is pretty solid.
 
Just got game and liking it but have one question. I have the wardens keep quest but not sure where to start it. I have found surpulchers peak one but can't find wardens keep where you can unlock the other party member.
 
Ahh crap you are right it was obsidian, my bad.

Still used Aurora graphics engine made by Bioware.
 
Done.

No contest really, i mean, Borderlands is great and everything, but Dragon Age is in a different league. Strikes me as odd that Borderlands is even in that competition to be honest, its a FPS in my opinion!!
 
Haven't had the chance to read this entire thread properly yet and I haven't done much research into this game but is this purely based for offline play or online play? I'm looking for a lonnnnnnnnnnnnnng term play game offline as I'm completing all of the latest games out super fast at the moment. I don't want to buy this game, find it has a 6 second completable offline story mode and then find out it's purely based for online play (kind of like the new COD).

I'm in two minds on getting this or Fallout 3, as I've been told but not confirmed that both are really long games offline.

Any information on this would be appreciated.

Tayl.
 
Tayl said:
Haven't had the chance to read this entire thread properly yet and I haven't done much research into this game but is this purely based for offline play or online play? I'm looking for a lonnnnnnnnnnnnnng term play game offline as I'm completing all of the latest games out super fast at the moment. I don't want to buy this game, find it has a 6 second completable offline story mode and then find out it's purely based for online play (kind of like the new COD).

I'm in two minds on getting this or Fallout 3, as I've been told but not confirmed that both are really long games offline.

Any information on this would be appreciated.

Tayl.
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fallout 3 is amazing. I played dragon age briefly at a friends and if you have played kotor or mass effect, substitute the people and places for ye olde standard elvey, knighty, dwarfy skins and settings, and you have dragon age.

But then again, if you have played Oblivion, substitute swords, bows and magic for guns and change the ye olde blah blah blah fantasy setting for post apocoliptic brown, broken everything ness. :P

on a slight side note from that, but still totally to do with dragon age, how accurate is yahtzee's review of it after a few hours? When I said I played it briefly, I mean about half an hour at most :P (**WARNING FOR THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE SENSITIVE EARS, THERE ARE SOME BAD WORDS IN THE VIDEO**):

http://www.escapistmagazine.com/videos/view/zero-punctuation/1096-Dragon-Age-Origins

I'd have posted it earlier if he didn't leave it until this weeks zero punctuation to do a review of it :mad:
 
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