Makes me want to dig out an old POS at work and stick it in the dishwasher for shits and giggles 
Computer hardware and dishwasher
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gamblingman
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If you are doing this, and I'm not completely convinced you are, using a dishwasher is a delinquent act on so many levels.
Can you imagine the contaminants that are going to be coating all those electronic parts from using your dishwasher as a cleaning tool! The soap residues, heavy compounds (like iron, calcium, lime, etc...), small food particles, fats/oils, and other contaminants depending on the water source.
Then there is all the water that cant be dried-out because it will have worked its way inside cables, casings, connections, or even solid-state components which may have microscopic cracks from years of use, etc... All of that will cause corrosion, plastic breakdown, short-out parts, etc...
That isn't all! There is the act of putting electronic items in the same place you clean your dishes! There are so many chemicals used on electronics that are hazardous to you, your family, the local community, and the environment. It really disturbs me that you would be so careless that you knowingly and callously allow dangerous compounds to come into contact with items you and your family use around and on food!
Many compounds on electronics are deadly or create highly debilitating conditions. Do the people in your household have any idea the situation you are creating for them? You said that you are drying the parts on your bed. So without a doubt this is your dishwasher at home, do you have no concern for yourself or anyone who uses this dishwasher?
What about your local community, do you think they want you getting all that stuff in their water? And you say that you have been doing this for over a year on your own computers and also on your "clients" machines! Do they know that you are doing this and the situation you are creating?!
I truly hope you are just making this up and that all this was just to gather some attention here. But if you are actually doing this, stop. Any argument that you could use to justify doing this would be erroneous. I can NOT believe what I have read; and I also believe that what you are doing is absolutely reprehensible.
Can you imagine the contaminants that are going to be coating all those electronic parts from using your dishwasher as a cleaning tool! The soap residues, heavy compounds (like iron, calcium, lime, etc...), small food particles, fats/oils, and other contaminants depending on the water source.
Then there is all the water that cant be dried-out because it will have worked its way inside cables, casings, connections, or even solid-state components which may have microscopic cracks from years of use, etc... All of that will cause corrosion, plastic breakdown, short-out parts, etc...
That isn't all! There is the act of putting electronic items in the same place you clean your dishes! There are so many chemicals used on electronics that are hazardous to you, your family, the local community, and the environment. It really disturbs me that you would be so careless that you knowingly and callously allow dangerous compounds to come into contact with items you and your family use around and on food!
Many compounds on electronics are deadly or create highly debilitating conditions. Do the people in your household have any idea the situation you are creating for them? You said that you are drying the parts on your bed. So without a doubt this is your dishwasher at home, do you have no concern for yourself or anyone who uses this dishwasher?
What about your local community, do you think they want you getting all that stuff in their water? And you say that you have been doing this for over a year on your own computers and also on your "clients" machines! Do they know that you are doing this and the situation you are creating?!
I truly hope you are just making this up and that all this was just to gather some attention here. But if you are actually doing this, stop. Any argument that you could use to justify doing this would be erroneous. I can NOT believe what I have read; and I also believe that what you are doing is absolutely reprehensible.
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1337dingo
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PohTayToez
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Listen, there is a reason that so many people here think what you're doing is idiotic. We're not just bullies looking to put someone down because they can up with some new great idea on washing computer components. There are numerous problems with what you are doing, and it's nothing short of a miracle that nothing has been destroyed yet:
Corrosion- The most obvious problem. You may think they're drying out 100%, but how can you be sure. A little bit of moisture left behind in a USB port or VGA port would be unnoticeable, but may not cause any problems until weeks or months later.
Water Pressure- Seems to me that most dishwashers would have enough water pressure to blow a component straight off of a board if it hit it the right way.
Electrical Shortage- A power supply will hold a significant charge for much longer than 24 hours after being used. A water stream hitting it just the right way could cause a short that would damage the power supply and potentially damage any other components as well as the dishwasher itself.
If you've done this more than a couple of times and haven't ran into any of these problems, then I would say you're incredibly lucky, but the fact is that if you continue to do this then you're going to break something eventually.
Corrosion- The most obvious problem. You may think they're drying out 100%, but how can you be sure. A little bit of moisture left behind in a USB port or VGA port would be unnoticeable, but may not cause any problems until weeks or months later.
Water Pressure- Seems to me that most dishwashers would have enough water pressure to blow a component straight off of a board if it hit it the right way.
Electrical Shortage- A power supply will hold a significant charge for much longer than 24 hours after being used. A water stream hitting it just the right way could cause a short that would damage the power supply and potentially damage any other components as well as the dishwasher itself.
If you've done this more than a couple of times and haven't ran into any of these problems, then I would say you're incredibly lucky, but the fact is that if you continue to do this then you're going to break something eventually.
Detergents of any kind will be highly corrosive.
What really disturbs me about this narrative is not that this person is silly enough to do this to his own equipment, but that (apparently) he's doing it to other people's computers as well.
Do these clients know how you are cleaning their computers?
What really disturbs me about this narrative is not that this person is silly enough to do this to his own equipment, but that (apparently) he's doing it to other people's computers as well.
Do these clients know how you are cleaning their computers?
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Little bit of moisture left behind in a USB port or VGA port or any other ports will completely dry with no problems if you put all that staff to dry in a very hot room.My room has a special radiator that releases VERY hot air and that results that things EVEN closed ones like mouses or keyboards dry 100% in 24 hours or more.
Water pressure will not damage anything if you put specific parts on the right places.For example you will NOT put RAM chip on the middle of the metal case.Instead you will put it on the top either right or left on the plastic shelf or in the plastic box with many small holes where things like knifes,forks and spoons are hold and then close the box.
Power supply do not hold significant charge for much longer than 24 hours after being used.Ok it does,but ONLY if you just turned it off and then put it DIRECTLY in the water lol.You won't do that lol.Instead you will connect it to any device that needs power and take ALL the power out and then repeat that for few times.
Well I have done this more then 100 times during the year (little longer) and nothing bad ever happened.Computers actually worked better.You would not believe how much the dirtiness can slow down the entire system especially if it's on the processor and cooler attached to it as well to many other staff like fans.My clients never complained and they were always happy how their computer works after they got it back lol
Thanks man
I am not using a detergent.And yes my clients know how I do it.
http://www.computerforum.com/192724-computer-hardware-dishwasher.html#post1608586
I'm going to link back to gamblingman's post, the key part is where he says "That isn't all!" There is a reason we have special collections for electronic waste, you can't just put the stuff in the trash. Running it through the dishwasher is no better.
I'm going to link back to gamblingman's post, the key part is where he says "That isn't all!" There is a reason we have special collections for electronic waste, you can't just put the stuff in the trash. Running it through the dishwasher is no better.
lucasbytegenius
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I am probably the ONLY weirdo who does this,but I am gonna ask you anyway lol:
I had few super old and super dirty computers.When I opened them after so many years I was like:"WOW!MAN THIS IS DEARTIER THEN MY OWN CRAP!"
I did not want to buy any new computers because I wanted to make them to work again like the new ones,but I DEFINETELY needed to clean them inside and outside first.However since that was SO dirty and there were places barely reachable with my hands,I took them COMPLETELY apart and put ALL their parts in the dishwasher except the hard disk drive,CD/DVD-ROM drive and the floopy disk.So I put the following things in the dishwasher:
-processor
-RAM chips
-motherboard
-graphic card
-all wires of any kind
-fan/ventilator
-power supply/unit
-power switches
-all led lights
-cooler
-keyboard
-all metal parts except the case and it's 2 plates
-all plastic parts
Sounds crazy doesn't it lol?
After I have put all that in,I closed the dishwasher and started the strongest and longest washing process which took about 1 hour and 30 minutes.
After the process was completed,I opened the dishwasher and HOLY SH!T !!!All the parts were so clean.They were like NEW ONES!
After that I took them all out and put them to dry and then I put the computer case and it's 2 metal plates in the dishwasher and washed that too using the same proceedure and after it finished it was also super clean like the new one!
And believe it or not,after 2 days of drying,I put them ALL together and it worked a LOT better.
So now you see...this is how I usually wash ALL my computer hardware parts wether it is the desktop computer or the laptop lol.All those DUST AWAY or other methods of cleaning sucks if you ask me lol.
I am washing some of those parts in the dishwasher right now as I am writing this lol.
So...my question is...AM I THE ONLY WEIRDO WHO DOES IT THIS WAY HAHAHA ?
Someone kill him for being such a fail. Seriously. It's sad.
A what job?! Seriously dude, your computer doesn't need such treatment.
And Pledge? Dude that's almost as bad as what that unmentionable did.
The only way I clean my computers is with an air compressor and air gun. Sometimes it's a horse-hair paintbrush.
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tremmor
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thought that's what i said. compressor and soft toothbrush if needed.
pledge is for the tower outside and make it shine. that's it.
once a year. same with spare parts from someone that gave me a computer.
just as a mentioned above if needed. Not the pledge. tower only. maybe the rim of
the monitor. not the screen.
pledge is for the tower outside and make it shine. that's it.
once a year. same with spare parts from someone that gave me a computer.
just as a mentioned above if needed. Not the pledge. tower only. maybe the rim of
the monitor. not the screen.
lucasbytegenius
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Well with monitors it's different, I use just about anything on them. Window cleaner, brillo pad, shirt, contents of your mouth-just about anything can be used.
tremmor
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used window cleaner but never a Brillo pad. remember my little brother had a brain fart. payed him to wash my car and had trouble cleaning and washing the car. He used a Brillo pad. Did not say nothing. it was done. he was about 12 yrs old. oh well, love memorys though.
I thank S.T.A.R.S. for starting this topic. It's a great idea, but apparently few people here have the testosterone level necessary to consider it objectively, weigh the pros and cons, and work out how to use it to their advantage. First, some useful information: in the real world of companies that actually make things rather than merely use/consume them, they use industrial vapor de-greasers (dissolves various types of gunk, lets it drip off, then evaporates fast like alcohol), acetone, IPA (iso-propyl acohol) and/or deionized WATER to clean circuit boards and related parts prior to and after assembly. The whole point to such processes is to remove contaminants of any kind. Regarding one poster's idea that washing a circuit board was going to somehow contaminate the water supply, is full of !@#$. These days there is nothing toxic in a circuit board, and whatever is there is not dissolvable in water or alchol. In short, you can eat off your motherboard and only it would suffer any ill effect. In fact, cleaning a motherboard in the dishwasher is just returning it to it's factory state (presuming your mobo manufacturer has reasonably good cleaning processes). If there were any contaminants on the circuit board, they would just be residues of a cleaning process.
You have to see a dishwasher as merely a tool that you apply along with some intelligence. How? One approach is to use deionized (purified and contaminants charged and then extracted) or distilled water (pretty much the same as "deionized" water) in the dishwasher along with some quantity of IPA. The water dissolves water-soluble gunk and the IPA dissolves any oil-based gunk. You place your computer parts in the dishwasher such that they get hit with liquid without getting blasted by it. How do you do that? Why, you look in the dishwasher and see where the spray-ports are and make sure anything delicate is pointed away. If you can't see how to do that, then don't put anything delicate into your particular washer. Different models spray water in different ways, so you have to adapt to what you have. After you wash your parts, you have to dry them. Just leave them in a warm area for awhile. How long? As long as you feel comfortable with. Personally, I'd put my parts into the oven set to Warm. Lest someone flip out over that concept, consider: how hot does a computer get? Answer: much hotter than a warm setting in your oven. Ideally, you would keep your oven door open and have a fan blowing into the opening to circulate the air. The way evaporation works is you heat the liquid up, it evaporates into the air, saturating it. At some point it can't absorb any more liquid (water and alcohol in this case), but if you blow it away, fresh air replaces it and can absorb more liquid. You can also use compressed air to hit nooks and crannies of anything you are worred about.
If the above sounds crazy to you, then I suggest you just stick to blowing dust off and replace your computer when that doesn't work anymore. Personally, I would stick to blowing the dust off since most of the time that's all you need to do. However, there are times when you need a more thorough cleaning and this one will fit my needs perfectly. How so? My son poured water into one of my computers, and you can imagine what hapapened next. I let it dry out and it worked again but was unstable thereafter (big surprise, I know), but old dust ended up caking over many areas and would not blow off and are now acting as blankets trapping heat and possibly providing spurious conductive pathways. My options are to take it apart and carefully wipe everything down...or dishwasher the parts. Some I'll not dishwasher, of course - this is a given and you have to use your brain and experience to decide what to wash and what to clean by some other method. The list S.T.A.R.S. provided is a good one, though I'd be extra careful in drying a graphics card heatsink/fan.
Thanks again for the basic idea S.T.A.R.S.,
~Shale
You have to see a dishwasher as merely a tool that you apply along with some intelligence. How? One approach is to use deionized (purified and contaminants charged and then extracted) or distilled water (pretty much the same as "deionized" water) in the dishwasher along with some quantity of IPA. The water dissolves water-soluble gunk and the IPA dissolves any oil-based gunk. You place your computer parts in the dishwasher such that they get hit with liquid without getting blasted by it. How do you do that? Why, you look in the dishwasher and see where the spray-ports are and make sure anything delicate is pointed away. If you can't see how to do that, then don't put anything delicate into your particular washer. Different models spray water in different ways, so you have to adapt to what you have. After you wash your parts, you have to dry them. Just leave them in a warm area for awhile. How long? As long as you feel comfortable with. Personally, I'd put my parts into the oven set to Warm. Lest someone flip out over that concept, consider: how hot does a computer get? Answer: much hotter than a warm setting in your oven. Ideally, you would keep your oven door open and have a fan blowing into the opening to circulate the air. The way evaporation works is you heat the liquid up, it evaporates into the air, saturating it. At some point it can't absorb any more liquid (water and alcohol in this case), but if you blow it away, fresh air replaces it and can absorb more liquid. You can also use compressed air to hit nooks and crannies of anything you are worred about.
If the above sounds crazy to you, then I suggest you just stick to blowing dust off and replace your computer when that doesn't work anymore. Personally, I would stick to blowing the dust off since most of the time that's all you need to do. However, there are times when you need a more thorough cleaning and this one will fit my needs perfectly. How so? My son poured water into one of my computers, and you can imagine what hapapened next. I let it dry out and it worked again but was unstable thereafter (big surprise, I know), but old dust ended up caking over many areas and would not blow off and are now acting as blankets trapping heat and possibly providing spurious conductive pathways. My options are to take it apart and carefully wipe everything down...or dishwasher the parts. Some I'll not dishwasher, of course - this is a given and you have to use your brain and experience to decide what to wash and what to clean by some other method. The list S.T.A.R.S. provided is a good one, though I'd be extra careful in drying a graphics card heatsink/fan.
Thanks again for the basic idea S.T.A.R.S.,
~Shale
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Virssagòn
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Wow... I just gave it up after the first sentence when I saw the other hundred xD
lucasbytegenius
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Same here. Wow. What he's suggesting is that you go out and buy a big tank, lots of distilled water and that oil cleaning stuff, then hook up your dishwasher to it, throw your computer in there, and voila.
You'd probably have to buy a whole new dishwasher to do this too, I don't want any of that stuff on my dishes.
And all this is if you're that crazy enough to do this.
lucasbytegenius
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Yeah, kinda glad it got bumped, funny going back and comparing Stars' old topics and posts with his new ones, not much has changed.
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