I'll let him know that it can't be done, we'll see what he says.
I know, it's a painful thought... I honestly thought he would have liked 10 better, given it's more like older Windows, but he says he got used to 8.1 when this computer came with it, and now that 10 is on there, he can't remember how to use old Windows. It's weird, I know...but I didn't ask
I even asked him if he wanted Windows 7 on there, and he said no. He really like 8.1 for some reason. Like, the full start menu screen. Actually.. maybe that's the ticket. Doesn't Windows 10 have a full screen start mode?
Type into Cortana "Use Start full screen". I know how older folks can be about changing OS's.
Yeah, that's the sad part of Windows now. The best option if you're not tied into the Windows ecosystem to much and willing to change up a bit GNU/Linux is one of the best options to get that Windows 7 feel back. You can even make it look the same if that is your preference. (https://www.noobslab.com/2014/04/make-your-ubuntulinux-mint-look-like.html)
Only thing tying me to Windows is game performance. Most of my games work decent on Linux (Prefer XUbuntu or Mint), but some don't work at all.
I wasn't actually talking about Windows as a Service
More the fact that you have no control over your "own" operating system anymore. If I pay $199 (I obviously don't, but stick with me) I want to NOT be forced to have crappy games and archive-handlers etc. jammed down my throat.
Which games, what hardware, which drivers, and have you used Proton?
Only thing tying me to Windows is game performance. Most of my games work decent on Linux (Prefer XUbuntu or Mint), but some don't work at all.
I wasn't actually talking about Windows as a Service
I've been learning group policy to strong arm certain aspects of 10 like the bloated games, mess of a start menu, and other such weirdness as it crops up.
1) That is something everyone should do. Specially in this day and age where Linux gaming is quiet easy and much easier with things like Proton. The official version of Wine built into the Steam client. Which runs about 90% of games. With a possible launch option on some or executable tweak, but usually not that hard.1)I have been tempted to try dual booting just to see how it is these days, I haven't tried gaming with Linux in a few years now.
2) Unfortunately there's no getting around the fact that gaming is easier and more stable on Windows.
3) Yes it's much easier to game on Linux than in years passed but there's a lot to be said for native OS support when all you're trying to do is relax and unwind with a game.
4) Particularly when Microsoft publishes them like Forza.
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Actually quite old signature. I've since moved on to a Ryzen 1800X PC, then gave that to my brother and bought a i7-8700K based setup, along with a 1080 ti. Might get around to update the sig.
I wanted to dual boot back on my 2600K build, but I was using RAID0, and keeping my current Windows was essentially impossible.Just be glad you're not in charge of upgrading probably 300ish machines from Windows 7 to 10 and all the fun that involves.
Thing is that the Group Policy on Pro doesn't respect the games. Same with metadata collecting. Only Enterprise or Server respects those settings.
But yeah, it's quite a process. We've just gone through it here at work.
I have been tempted to try dual booting just to see how it is these days, I haven't tried gaming with Linux in a few years now. Used to use it for school/programming. Unfortunately there's no getting around the fact that gaming is easier and more stable on Windows. Yes it's much easier to game on Linux than in years passed but there's a lot to be said for native OS support when all you're trying to do is relax and unwind with a game. Particularly when Microsoft publishes them like Forza.
I will look into that game soon. I'll see if I can get it running via Steam and make a tutorial video on it if I can. Believe I have to buy that one. I think I never bought it because Saints Row series of games were native to Linux when that was coming out.
My suggestion is take it to a Linux Fest at some point. Heck you missed the 2018 one sadly. I would have even agreed to take a look at it, in person. There is always a lounge area with people helping people setup Linux setup machines their having issues with.
1) That is something everyone should do. Specially in this day and age where Linux gaming is quiet easy and much easier with things like Proton. The official version of Wine built into the Steam client. Which runs about 90% of games. With a possible launch option on some or executable tweak, but usually not that hard.
2) Not at all. On GNU/Linux you don't even have to wait to play your game after installing it in Steam. No first time setup or any of that crap. Native games install in an instant and off you go.
3) Have you even looked at what is native on Linux? We have Deus Ex games, Dirt series games, Lara Croft games, Shadow of Mordor, and a lot of titles for the OS. Mind you some are binary wrapped, but binary wrapped is not WINE in the slightest, but honestly with how WINE + DXVK is I wouldn't care.
4) https://store.steampowered.com/app/537450/ReCore_Definitive_Edition/ <-- Microsoft Studios title
<--- Steam Proton running the game like it was nothing. With D3D11 support. (Skip to about 1:18 to see gameplay footage).
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Not try to come off as brass or rude. It just seems like you have been out of touch with what is happening in Linux. Nor am I trying to say everything is perfect. Because AMD has a long ways to go even. Yet if you're Nvidia carding it up you're usually pretty solid. Specially when using the latest drivers. (It's just the Penguin has had a fire light under it and things are changing rapidly.
That would be quite the feat, considering it's very well documented to not run past the launcher.
Well no one is forcing you to change or even insisted such a thing. Use whatever floats your boat.I'm in an IT dept that is exclusively Windows and that's what I'm comfortable with and plan to specialize in as I continue my career. I don't even game much anymore on my Windows PC. I am aware there are more and more native titles these days. I was hoping Vulkan would push that more but alas...
I'm actually an AMD guy usually, despite the 1080.
And good luck getting any modern Microsoft Studios game to run on anything but W10.
(Funny thing is a lot of it's opensoure on GitHub and another the other funny thing is Microsoft now purchased GitHub. Yet UWP is locked into the Windows Store. AKA GitHub will soon be renamed Windows Store. Okay maybe not. xD) (Edit: Yes I understand what .Net is, trust me I do. I only quoted that one part so this isn't a whole book).
I have high hopes for getting it to run. I read into what the game uses for game install scripts and the works. Only problem right now is the game is basically 80GB. I'm only half way done downloading, lol.
The fact that it's a Microsoft published game is more what I'm getting at rather than it being a UWP product. The entire game is baked into you having an Xbox profile (even on PC) and the overall functionality needs it. 