Windows 10

Anyone else find Windows 10 a complete mess performance wise? I mean sure it runs fine on my 8 core gaming computer, but everything else I've used it on there are times where there is significant wait times in places there shouldn't be. Pressing start for example can take over a second to open quite frequently. Here's a real instance that happened at work. I needed to calculate something quickly. Press search, wait a second or two for it to pop up, type calc, wait multiple seconds for it to show a calc app, then open, which since the new metro version now pops up first, also takes like 2-3 seconds to open. This same task took like 2 seconds total in previous Windows versions.

Don't get me wrong, I like a lot of things in Windows 10, I just don't understand the huge dip in performance all of a sudden.
 
speedyink said:
Press search, wait a second or two for it to pop up, type calc, wait multiple seconds for it to show a calc app, then open, which since the new metro version now pops up first, also takes like 2-3 seconds to open. This same task took like 2 seconds total in previous Windows versions.
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You might find it more convenient to use Win+R
 
beers said:
You might find it more convenient to use Win+R
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Well that's another way of doing it, and what I did pre-Vista, but that search box in the Start menu became just that slight bit more convenient =P

On the plus side that major update they just released for 10 seems to have ironed out the performance issues.
 
I downloaded 10 and it took 3 hours, if my very poor internet connection were to drop out in that time I would have had to do it all over again!, perhaps that's why it has failed to download for some? After a couple of hours navigating around it I found that it had wiped my security programme and some of my installed from disc programmes, all of which I could not reinstall, the disc programmes were 'incompatible' and my security was 'out of date' despite it having another 8 months left to run. Cortana does not work in the UK, you have to use the type box, what a load of rubbish, it's only trying to copy Goggle speech, at least that works! Why are things being called Apps, IOS does not use Apps, Android does that, another con. Ended up dumping it and going back to 7, the best OS, that took 3 minutes and the wiped programmes were restored but I had to reinstall my security..............If anyone wants to get rid of that annoying Windows icon that they've put on your taskbar and permanently get rid of it you have to find it in 'control panel' in 'view updates' as it has come to you via a Windows update and you have to uninstall it, anyone wanting to do this I can tell you more how to. If you don't want 10 and don't remove the update/icon before 29th July 2016 I have been informed that it will automatically download on your PC and you're then stuck with it!
 
Fatherboard said:
I downloaded 10 and it took 3 hours, if my very poor internet connection were to drop out in that time I would have had to do it all over again!
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You lost me here. Entirely confused...

Did you clean install Win10? Might have been easier to download the iso and put it on a usb drive instead.

Also, Cortana and the search bar next to her are easily detached with a right-click. I have yet to entirely remove Cortana.

What does Apple and Android have to do with Microsoft? :confused:
 
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As far as I understand it there is no need to clean install as you may loose everything if you want to go back unless you backup everything which they say you don't need to. I'm not aware that you have an option to download to a disc drive or that you can detach anything with a right click. Whatever you can or cannot do I for one will be sticking with Windows 7.

Apple have nothing to do with Microsoft, I never mentioned Apple. Microsoft are trying to copy the Android system or make it look like Android by referring to certain elements as 'Apps'.
 
Fatherboard said:
As far as I understand it there is no need to clean install as you may loose everything if you want to go back unless you backup everything which they say you don't need to. I'm not aware that you have an option to download to a disc drive or that you can detach anything with a right click. Whatever you can or cannot do I for one will be sticking with Windows 7.

Apple have nothing to do with Microsoft, I never mentioned Apple. Microsoft are trying to copy the Android system or make it look like Android by referring to certain elements as 'Apps'.
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Yes a clean install removes all your data, but it also removes every trace of your previous OS. Lots of people have issues after performing an OS upgrade, so a clean install is recommended. Besides, you should absolutely back up your data before doing an upgrade just in case.
 
But that's just it, they say that you don't need to back up anything as 'all your programmes and files will be preserved' but clearly some are not. I think unless you're a compter wizard there are going to be many issues with it, no matter how many updates, patches and fixes are put out.
 
Fatherboard said:
But that's just it, they say that you don't need to back up anything as 'all your programmes and files will be preserved' but clearly some are not. I think unless you're a compter wizard there are going to be many issues with it, no matter how many updates, patches and fixes are put out.
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The intent is that no data will be lost, but as with any upgrade, you should always create a backup as sometimes the upgrade doesn't go as planned and can hose your system.
 
But I wonder how many will do a complete backup before they download the upgrade? I'm pretty certain that there will be a vast majority of people that are not that particularly computer savvy, like I say, not everyone are computer wizards and would even think about it, too late when a month has past since you upgraded or the month after the upgrade offer date has passed, you're then stuck with it. You don't have to be offered the upgrade either, regardless of weather you have the upgrade icon showing or no anyone using Windows 7 home, premium or professional or 8.1 can upgrade for free anyway before the end of next July.
 
I personally wish MS wasn't pushing the "in place" upgrade so hard. With pretty much all previous versions of Windows, a clean install was the recommended and preferred way of upgrading. In place upgrades have always been trouble prone.

At minimum, when someone starts the upgrade to Win 10, there should be a nag screen warning them to make sure they have a full backup before proceeding.
 
strollin said:
they have a full backup before proceeding
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I did the upgrade yesterday. Definitely got a nag screen about backups.

Haven't had much in the way of problems. Edge browser seems slow, and my onboard sound's MIC input is a bit low but that's about it.
 
Is anyone happy with the email in WIn10?
I'm unable to block or specify that emails from a domain be sent to the junk/spam folder. In Live Mail the action of moving an email from the inbox to the junk folder brought up a query to send all future mail from the domain to the junk folder - Not so in Win 10 email. Such a simple thing and I can't seem to find an answer. I've dismissed Edge and now about to dismiss the email program. Disappointing...............
 
WIN 10 seems simple and easy, but, in my first trial run, it seems nothing much has changed. The nice thing is, Microsoft givers you a free upgrade. The new version seems Microsoftian dumb as usual. It tempts you into doing a lot of things that it has already done.
 
I was at a LAN the last couple of days. Friend plugs in an external USB HDD and his PC shuts down. Turning it on states something like "USB over current, shutting down in 15 seconds". Ten minutes of diagnosing and motherboard and CPU was 100% RIP. (Phenom 1055T and ASUS M4N68T).
Went home and picked up a Intel Q8300 and Gigabyte G31M-S2L. Originally it was AHCI installed on an AMD platform, but upon booting it with IDE (G31M-S2L doesn't support AHCI) the Windows 10 Upgrade-style screen comes up and starts configuring and installing devices, as well as Windows Updates.
It worked flawlessly and he could continue playing games without reinstall. GGWP Windows 10 and have a good new year! :)
 
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