THE OFFICIAL PS3 vs. XBOX360 vs. Wii thread
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double b26
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the wii does look entertaining. but depending on what kind of games you play, you might not want to go with nintendo. they have always been more 'family oriented' than the other guys.
i have a friend who bought a ps3 a month or so ago. its a good console, as much as i hate sony. i dont know how well built they are tho. and it not having vibration in the controllers just sucks. the tilt thing in the controller is alright, but i would much rather have vibration. and the price...
sure ps3 has blu-ray player built in. but how many people can actually use it?? if you dont have a hd-tv, its pointless (although ive read that they can use blu-ray for game discs). and then there is the whole blu-ray vs hd-dvd battle going on now too. everyone recommends that you wait to buy a high def dics player until a definate winner emerges. so that extra money that goes on the blu-ray player part of ps3 may turn out to be pretty useless within the next couple years. or it may not. only time will tell.
but, IMO, hd-dvd will probably come out the winner (as far as movies) because they offer the dual-format disc. so if i buy a movie on hd-dvd, i only have to buy it once, because the other side is standard dvd. that is a huge advantage in my book. plus, blu-ray's main focus is copy protection. it uses 4 'layers' of copy protection(AACS, ICT, BD+ and BD-ROM Mark). hd-dvd only uses the regular 2 types (AACS and ICT). hd-dvd also offers 'managed copy', which will allow you to transfer the movie to another device and/or view it over a network. blu-ray wants you to be able to watch it on a disc only.
im no fanboy. i call it like i see it. i have an xbox 360 and i love it. it a good medium between the cheaper wii and the outrageously expensive ps3. and this fall they are gonna update the 360 for use with IPTV and you will be able to use it as a dvr too. and if high def movies are important to you, you can add on the hd-dvd player and have the same money as you would in a ps3. and x-box live is a great online gaming service.
double b26
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if you want a ps3 with everything a 360 offers, it will run you about $850.
if you want a 360 with everything a ps3 offers, it will run you about $858.
check out this side-by-side comparison.
i think its wrong for microsoft to re-release the 360's after millions of the original versions were sold.
double b26
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PLEASE CHECK OUT THESE LINKS FOR THE FACTS ABOUT X-BOX ELITE
Elite system will be built to a higher standard
ALL 360's will be IPTV capable by this winter.
Elite has the same chipset as the existing 360's. You can transfer files between 20gb HDD and the new 120gb model.
xbox.com's official take on the elite system
Elite or Not?
im sure its covered in one of those links, but there is no hd-dvd drive built into the elite system. basically, the difference is the color, hdmi output and the larger hard drive. nothing else...unless you believe that 'built to a higher standard' crap. ill have to see that to believe it!!!
Playstation 3 vs X-Box 360 Elite. nice side-by-side comparison that is worth a good look no matter which console you favor.
Elite system will be built to a higher standard
ALL 360's will be IPTV capable by this winter.
Elite has the same chipset as the existing 360's. You can transfer files between 20gb HDD and the new 120gb model.
xbox.com's official take on the elite system
Elite or Not?
im sure its covered in one of those links, but there is no hd-dvd drive built into the elite system. basically, the difference is the color, hdmi output and the larger hard drive. nothing else...unless you believe that 'built to a higher standard' crap. ill have to see that to believe it!!!
Playstation 3 vs X-Box 360 Elite. nice side-by-side comparison that is worth a good look no matter which console you favor.
cuffless
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i dont think its wrong. as there are only a few upgrades people who braught the original 360 (including me) wont feel that microsoft have just made a completley new console. the 120gb hdd will be sold seperatley anyway. i think its just for people who are buying their first 360. there is no reason for people with the first gen 360 to upgrade. some people will say that the hdmi port is good but im pretty sure it isnt worth the extra money
double b26
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the hard drive is the big deal. i know you will be able to buy it seperate. but for $179, i think its a rip off. the thing is this. i already paid the extra money for the premium console (vs core) w/ the 20gb hdd. if i buy the 120gb one, i will have no use for the smaller hdd. itll just collect dust and be pointless to have lying around. and i already have spent $400 on the premium setup. if i sink another 179 into it, ill have over $600 in it (after tax). but if i would have waited an just bought the elite, i would only have about 500 invested for the same thing (plus get the hdmi hookup). if i bought a core setup, i would have about the same as i would in an elite, but no wireless controller or hdmi.
the hdmi isnt any big deal to me either. def not worth buying an elite just for that. and for me, it would be useless because both my tvs max out at 1080i.
so the reason i think its wrong for them to 'upgrade' the console is because the people who went and spent the money on the premium will end up spending more in the long run to have something close to equal with the elite. the core owners will end up getting the better deal, as they will have only 479 in their console after getting the 120 gb hdd (but still they dont have wireless controllers). so i think its the pricing that makes it wrong. the people who had faith in ms and spent the extra cash are gonna end up getting the worst deal of all. the ones who bought a core setup will end up coming out with less invested that the premium guys. so if you ran a business, would you alienate the people who spent the extra money or the ones that went the cheap route?? me, i would want my big spenders happy first and formost.
then ms said we wouldnt need the hdmi or more space, then they go back on their word..very deceitful.
cuffless
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nothing it so the premium owners have to upgrade to the 120gb hdd. not all of them want to upgrade.
double b26
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dont get me wrong, i see your point. i know not everyone cares about the hard drive. but for people like myself who would like to have the extra space, the upgrade should be less expensive. the numbers just dont work out evenly...everyone should be able to have an equal system for about the same amount invested. but depending on what you already have, and the cost of the upgrade, some people will have $100 more sunk into their console than joe blow across the street that has basically the same thing when all is said and done. i just think its poor business practice....or bad public relations at least.
lovely?
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but look at it this way. if your company put out a GOOD product, and people loved it, but you think that some things about it are not up to par, then instead of going bankrupt by recalling them, i would just release a version that has an upgrade or two, like the proc on the elite, which isnt a better performer, but it does run alot cooler.
kenpomaster
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I've been a gamer since i was 5 (probably like every one else on this thread). I've played every system ever made,from the 1st atari to sega saturn to PS3. and ive got to say that if you really want the most bang for your buck then go for the Wii, it is hands down the most fun ive ever had with a video game....and when you think about it PS3 and 360 dont really offer you anything new, who the hell cares about better graphics? graphics dont make it more fun, the game itself makes it fun.
and for those of you that think nintendo is only for kids, check out metroid or zelda, obviously geared towards us older gamers that grew up with the name.....Ive spent hours playing boxing (not only fun but also a good workout) on Wii Sports just because its fun to kick butt and watch the little cartoon boxer guys fall down all limp, then you can stand over them and do your own personalized taunt by moving the contoller, plus it came with the system, zelda- awesome, trauma center- awesome, warioware-awesome, excite truck-awesome(and im definitely NOT a racing game fan, but its just plain fun), metroid-awesome (the gamecube metroids were cool, but when your actually shooting something with the controller it takes it to a whole nother level)....now u might not get all the graphics power but u do get wireless controllers, wireless network compatibility built in, bluetooth, all the goodies u really want in a console, other than a dvd/blueray player but everyone and there mother already has at least 1 dvd player, and blueray wont be the main usage media for a while (if ever), and by then a blueray player will cost a whole lot less than 600 buckaroos.
go with the wii, its cheaper and you will not regret it, SO FUN
and for those of you that think nintendo is only for kids, check out metroid or zelda, obviously geared towards us older gamers that grew up with the name.....Ive spent hours playing boxing (not only fun but also a good workout) on Wii Sports just because its fun to kick butt and watch the little cartoon boxer guys fall down all limp, then you can stand over them and do your own personalized taunt by moving the contoller, plus it came with the system, zelda- awesome, trauma center- awesome, warioware-awesome, excite truck-awesome(and im definitely NOT a racing game fan, but its just plain fun), metroid-awesome (the gamecube metroids were cool, but when your actually shooting something with the controller it takes it to a whole nother level)....now u might not get all the graphics power but u do get wireless controllers, wireless network compatibility built in, bluetooth, all the goodies u really want in a console, other than a dvd/blueray player but everyone and there mother already has at least 1 dvd player, and blueray wont be the main usage media for a while (if ever), and by then a blueray player will cost a whole lot less than 600 buckaroos.
go with the wii, its cheaper and you will not regret it, SO FUN
Unfortunately, everyones interpretation of 'fun' is different. Thats why, although someone like yourself may think that the Wii is awesome, not everyone would express the same preference. I, for instance, have played the Wii at a friends house and have since taken a dislike to it. At first, i was ecstatic to get a chance to play on one, but now, whenever he offers i don't feel as excited. It's as if the first few plays are amazing but then, after a week or so, the gameplay begins to ware a bit thin. In my opinion, it's good but not THAT good.
bigsaucybob
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I agree with you to an extent, I could play Wii Bowling for hours. I think the Wii needs a few more months for some very innovative games to come out, and it will be an amazing console. The idea is great, and it is sure to be popular.
Pck21
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Well you're certainly entitled to your opinion
What games did you play on it?The reason I like my Wii so much is that games like Wii sports pulled me into the Wii innovation and made me think that this is the way to play video games. However games like Zelda and Rayman kept me coming back to play just because the game was fun like Rayman or the story was just enthralling like Zelda.
Which system do you like the best?
Wii Sports and Red Steel. Sports isn't too bad i suppose, I was just suprised to find that, more often than not, the Wiimote didn't really translate my movements to the game very well. Red Steel in particular had some really dodgy controls. I also had a go at another game but i've forgotten the name of it. The concept, unfortunately, seemed to be very reminiscent of the type of Java based "click and mash keys until you win" games that i find myself playing online when i'm bored
. I suppose i was a bit harsh when i said i disliked the Wii. I can see why many enjoy it. I just can't seem to get much out of playing it (if that makes sense ).I'm kinda sitting on the fence at the moment. I think that the PS3 looks sweet and it's clear that its packed with features: Blu-ray, free online play etc. But equally, I like the simplicity of the 360, not to mention the awesome games for it. I think for now i'll just say that I have no preference, although I may one-day change my mind.
Pck21
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Wii Sports and Red Steel. Sports isn't too bad i suppose, I was just suprised to find that, more often than not, the Wiimote didn't really translate my movements to the game very well. Red Steel in particular had some really dodgy controls. I also had a go at another game but i've forgotten the name of it. The concept, unfortunately, seemed to be very reminiscent of the type of Java based "click and mash keys until you win" games that i find myself playing online when i'm bored
Yea actually I find that Red Steel isn't a good representation of what the Wii can do haha
Wii Sports has been my favorite so far other than Zelda. I am sorry to hear you didn't like it but hey not everybody will so good for you to stand up for what you believe. At least you gave it a chance. I have a lot of respect for people who try new things and actually form their own opinion about it. Maybe later we can entice you to join the 'Light' side LOL!I'll tell you one thing; I Definitely use my 360 A LOT more than my PS3. I was really excited when going to pick up my PS3, like wee my pants excited, but when I brought it home and plugged it in I was underwhelmed. Funny thing is the guy at EB Games when I bought it said, and I quote, "Man you're going to be disappointed..." and then swiped my credit card. I swear I heard my card laugh and then scream in pain. Eh anyways I'm hoping 'Home' will be awesome when it comes out this fall. Otherwise it's a waiting game.
Well anyways welcome to the forums! I don't think I've seen you on here before.
I've actually been here quite a while. Lol. I was previously called 'H-Bomb' but my account stopped working (don't know whether it was a problem at my end or the forum's). I think i had about a thousand posts. Lol, whenever i post people react like i'm a n00b to the forum because my post count is so low
Thanks for the warm welcome all the same!
Pck21
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I've actually been here quite a while. Lol. I was previously called 'H-Bomb' but my account stopped working (don't know whether it was a problem at my end or the forum's). I think i had about a thousand posts. Lol, whenever i post people react like i'm a n00b to the forum because my post count is so low
Oh man is my face red! Sorry bout that. Well you're welcome anyway lol
kenpomaster
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Wii Sports and Red Steel. Sports isn't too bad i suppose, I was just suprised to find that, more often than not, the Wiimote didn't really translate my movements to the game very well. Red Steel in particular had some really dodgy controls. I also had a go at another game but i've forgotten the name of it. The concept, unfortunately, seemed to be very reminiscent of the type of Java based "click and mash keys until you win" games that i find myself playing online when i'm bored
I'm kinda sitting on the fence at the moment. I think that the PS3 looks sweet and it's clear that its packed with features: Blu-ray, free online play etc. But equally, I like the simplicity of the 360, not to mention the awesome games for it. I think for now i'll just say that I have no preference, although I may one-day change my mind.
If you think that the Wii games are just a swing until u get it kind of thing, then i'd like to play you because i would spank you at any game we play....it's kinda like saying UT2004 was just a point and shoot kinda game(which it is, but there r about 15 other actions that u have to do also, or u'll die)
boxing is the finest example of this, sure if u want to beat the 1st 5 or so bums then yeah u can just swing like mad, but if when u get past them u actually HAVE to use the 5 D's, and time it so that ur opponent misses and gives u a opening....hmmmm, just like real boxing, I played for 4 hours and not only had fun, but got a great work out (and im no slouch, if u read anything else i post, im in UNFUNistan right now, and in fantastic shape). and the wii sports games while all r fun, r really meant to be played with multiple players, the wii is designed to not only get the majority of american gamers off there fat butts but to increase the desire to play socially. Pretty much all games r more fun multiplayer...but nowadays all we have to do for multiplayer is log on and there r 500 other ppl waiting to play...but when u play in person u get to laugh together, taunt each other, all kinds off fun stuff thats is missed by all the solitary gamers (not to mention u can actually make REAL friends this way). now thats not to say that i dont enjoy a little quiet private gaming, i've played every FF all the way through, and played FFX1 for a while. And while all thats fun, the personal aspect of actually playing with a real person next to u is more fun.
But i will own all 3 systems, i just wouldnt pay full price for either the 360 or the ps3, theres no way when i can buy it a year or 2 after its release and save 200$ the wii is actually worth the starting price and i would gladly pay it again(although im 1 of the few that got 1 at cost bcus in afghanistan the PX sells it without mark up, and the military buys plenty for us to buy from them bcus they know it keeps us from going insane.
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I was talking about the game I was playing, not ALL the Wii games. It's called Warioware and involves a series of pointless tasks like inflating ballons and tossing a stir fry. I'm sure most Wii games require a bit of skill but this one certainly does not. I've played it once and managed to do better than my friend who had been playing on it for weeks. Simply because I was good at shaking the controller quite fast. Where's the skill in that?