I just spent about $2500 on this new gaming rig of a computer and had it put together by PC Club. Now here is my issue, after getting it, I went ahead and installed my basic programs that I use, such as Norton Internet Security 2007, MS Office 2003, AOL IM, MSN Messenger, Yahoo Messenger, etc... Now my computer takes about 10 minutes from the time I turn it on, till I can actually use the computer. It has no problems booting into windows, It's just once I enter my password to get into windows XP, it takes forever to fully load, so I can open up a program or check email. Can anyone help me figure out what is causing this, and how to find the program(s) that takes forever to boot, so that I can figure out how to eliminate them from the startup? Any help would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
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Norton for one is well known as the "resource grabber". But with all of the messenger service all trying to log onto something all at once your startup list is bogging things down. These often see extras that load along with the messenger itself more or less polluting the otherwise swift startup with a basic Windows.
Try using the msconfig utility to reduce some things in the startup group along with checking the "hide all microsoft services" box for the services tab to see what difference is seen then. Simply type msconfig at the Run command prompt and press enter/click ok to bring that up followed by a system restart.
Try using the msconfig utility to reduce some things in the startup group along with checking the "hide all microsoft services" box for the services tab to see what difference is seen then. Simply type msconfig at the Run command prompt and press enter/click ok to bring that up followed by a system restart.
One thing I don't understand. When I tried this, it gave me this error...
"An Access Denied error was returned while attempting to change a service. You may need to log on using an Administrator account to make the specified changes." I am the administrator in Windows. Do I don't know why I'm getting this. I checked the users tab in the control panel, and it just lists me, and is setup as the administrator. Any advice?
You may have to manually right click on each item found in the system tray as far as icons there for AOL, MSN, Yahoo. etc. to first shut them down. Once done remember to hide the MS services box you will want to check off first before going into the services tab. That will prevent you from disabling any essential background services needed for Windows to run normally.
If you still have problems after taking those steps you may not be seeing enough privileges to disable any MS related items like msmssg. The alternative to closing each one by way of right clicking on each icon would be to restart the system to boot in the safe mode. You simply press the F8 key right as the last of the post tests is completing in order to see the Windows boot not board's boot device menu brought up then.
If you have a factory logo seen when first starting the system you usually won't know just when the posts are completing and will see Windows start loading too fast for that option. The option for disabling the logo is generally found in the advanced or boot information section of the bios setup.
If you still have problems after taking those steps you may not be seeing enough privileges to disable any MS related items like msmssg. The alternative to closing each one by way of right clicking on each icon would be to restart the system to boot in the safe mode. You simply press the F8 key right as the last of the post tests is completing in order to see the Windows boot not board's boot device menu brought up then.
If you have a factory logo seen when first starting the system you usually won't know just when the posts are completing and will see Windows start loading too fast for that option. The option for disabling the logo is generally found in the advanced or boot information section of the bios setup.
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norton is crap takes up loads of disk space word 2007 is not gong to help if you do not have a big hdd at least 100gb.
Windows xp pro:
log on to the administrator in windows xp pro by going start cntrol panel user accounts change the way users log on and off and un tick both boxes.
log off change the top line to administrator
and log on.
Windows Xp home:
log into safe mode by going restarting computer and pressing F8 when it loads.
and the administrator account shows there.
Windows xp pro:
log on to the administrator in windows xp pro by going start cntrol panel user accounts change the way users log on and off and un tick both boxes.
log off change the top line to administrator
and log on.
Windows Xp home:
log into safe mode by going restarting computer and pressing F8 when it loads.
and the administrator account shows there.
Norton has a lot of startup items and is considered a boated software with all of it's features. Grisoft now sees their own internet secuity program as well as antivirus and antimalware/spyware programs.
The main concern there however is having too long of a list of messenger service loading all at once. Disabling a few of those for manual startup will free up resources for Windows itself.
The main concern there however is having too long of a list of messenger service loading all at once. Disabling a few of those for manual startup will free up resources for Windows itself.
The general decription of the problem does point at too much trying to load all at once. One or two messenging services wouldn't generally tie a system up while having a large combination as well as Norton a known memory grabber loading at the same time points to using up the available resources too fast.
The first question now would be how much memory is installed like only 512mb on a prebuilt system or are you running 1gb or more? Windows will drag with any large amount of memory used up when frist starting the system. The average custom case at this time sees a good 2gb in use to be suitable for gaming, multitasking. and even running some large programs.
The first question now would be how much memory is installed like only 512mb on a prebuilt system or are you running 1gb or more? Windows will drag with any large amount of memory used up when frist starting the system. The average custom case at this time sees a good 2gb in use to be suitable for gaming, multitasking. and even running some large programs.
I have 2 gigs of of ram on the board and a Nvidia 8800 GTS video card ( Can't remember how much ram is on that, like 600 something, it's 2nd from the top of the line in memory size for this video card.) I only have windows messenger and AOL IM. I removed (uninstalled) Yahoo Messenger, and MSN messenger from the system. I don't see a difference in the start up time by doing so. I also ran the AMUST Registry cleaner (full version), and cleaned up all my registary. It did say that I had 13 errors, that it couldn't fix though. Not sure what to do about that. I also disabled everything I could in MSCONFIG that looked like it wasn't importaint to have start up when the computer started. Any more suggestions? Oh and now I get an error when I shut down that says "WMS Idle not responding, click close to shut down." Anyone know what this is?
Windows messenger service by the sound of that. Before rushing to uninstall things while seeing those as possible causes the msconfug utillty used for disabling things can also see items re-enabled later once the problem is found.
RegCure, Registry Mechanic, and other retail registry cleaners are not even bothered with since one freeware can do a great job from 95 to Vista called the RegCleaner. http://www.dewassoc.com/support/useful/regcleaner.htm
Simply disabling the messenging services temporary with the msconfig however would have been all that was needed to see one of those was the cause for seeing Windows slowed down there. A good cleanup of the registry can help like you thought to do there. The next item would be hardware/software drivers were one or more may be missing or corrupted somehow.
Besides driver issues one other thing can pull a system down fast. Mainly that would be any external devices like a printer or type of device where a hardware fault has developed pulling the power level down when first starting the system up. Despite all driver/software changes the largest demand on the supply is seen at post time and Windows startup. Try unplugging any external devices and see how that goes.
RegCure, Registry Mechanic, and other retail registry cleaners are not even bothered with since one freeware can do a great job from 95 to Vista called the RegCleaner. http://www.dewassoc.com/support/useful/regcleaner.htm
Simply disabling the messenging services temporary with the msconfig however would have been all that was needed to see one of those was the cause for seeing Windows slowed down there. A good cleanup of the registry can help like you thought to do there. The next item would be hardware/software drivers were one or more may be missing or corrupted somehow.
Besides driver issues one other thing can pull a system down fast. Mainly that would be any external devices like a printer or type of device where a hardware fault has developed pulling the power level down when first starting the system up. Despite all driver/software changes the largest demand on the supply is seen at post time and Windows startup. Try unplugging any external devices and see how that goes.
Wow thanks for the registy cleaner program. It looks like it fixed my issues. I can now boot into windows and be ready to use it in under a minute flat.
I do have one problem issue left though. Every time I try to shut down, i get an error stating WMS idle is not responding, and I have to click close to shut down the computer. Do you know what this could be, and how to fix this? I sometimes forget to wait for this error when I'm in a rush to go somewhere and am shutting down the computer, and the computer just ends up staying on till I get back to it hours later. Basically unless I click on the "end now" button on the error, the computer won't shut down. Any advice on how to fix this error? Thanks again for all of your help.
Not using the Windows or other messenger services in general I would generally point at that being from the program itself needing to see a good reinstall to correct some software glitch. One quikc way out of course would be to right click on the icon found in the system tray to it shut down first and then go to the Start>shutdown option. You will probably still see that come up if not closing out completely first.
The task manager will show all process and running applications. Pressing CTRL-ALT-DEL keys together or simply right clicking on the Start taskbar will bring that up as an option there where you can easily end the process if not seen in the first applications tab. But a reinstall of that feature or simple run of the "sfc /scannow" command at the Start>Run promot with the XP installation disk in the drive will be another idea to see that repaired since the utilty scans to repair and replace MS files damaged or missing.
XP sees use for that while not so good in Vista. The new version sees automatic repair tools for startup problems on the installation disk when booting with that but no more recovery console. The system file checker can help at times with the MS feeatures and even some 3rd party programs when they conflict with a system file.
The task manager will show all process and running applications. Pressing CTRL-ALT-DEL keys together or simply right clicking on the Start taskbar will bring that up as an option there where you can easily end the process if not seen in the first applications tab. But a reinstall of that feature or simple run of the "sfc /scannow" command at the Start>Run promot with the XP installation disk in the drive will be another idea to see that repaired since the utilty scans to repair and replace MS files damaged or missing.
XP sees use for that while not so good in Vista. The new version sees automatic repair tools for startup problems on the installation disk when booting with that but no more recovery console. The system file checker can help at times with the MS feeatures and even some 3rd party programs when they conflict with a system file.
You have Office 2003 installed. I bet Outlook is not shutting down. You had Norton/outlook installed but somtimes nero will do that. With Norton and Office it was the (enable office plugin) that has the problem not letting Outlook shutdown. And dont let someone tell you to go into MSCONFIG and start unchecking things that you dont think that should startup, thats completely irresponsible and can cause trouble if you dont know what your doing. You can allways go into the program and just uncheck startup with Windows and leave MSCONFIG alone
With the msdonfig utility and what someone doesn't want you to know you can always see anything disabled while troubleshooting re-enabled again easily once the source of the problem has been isolated. That can determine whether or not the problem is MS or non MS related due to seeing a software issue.
With careful tweaking in both the Startup and Services tabs there checking or not checking off the "hide all microsoft services" box you disable and re-enable individual as well as the entire list of things installed to pin point which program is involved. When not hiding the MS services you simply have to be cautious not to disable any esseintials needed for Windows to run.
With careful tweaking in both the Startup and Services tabs there checking or not checking off the "hide all microsoft services" box you disable and re-enable individual as well as the entire list of things installed to pin point which program is involved. When not hiding the MS services you simply have to be cautious not to disable any esseintials needed for Windows to run.