tlarkin
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Apple does not do "everything" in house. Some of the previous generation Macbooks were manufactured by Asus. The new ones are most likely manufactured by Quanta and Foxconn. What I quoted was their net profit margin...meaning after everything is said and done, this is what they make. It's higher than any other company I could find, though IBM wasn't far behind.
Apple still designs every aspect. They don't make the Intel chipset either or the processor, Intel does. However, they engineer everything about their systems. Like I said earlier, there are only really like 5 actual major manufacturers in the world. Every computer component is made by them. That doesn't mean they use the same quality parts and that does not mean they all have the same quality engineering.
I didn't realize your workplace was so large...apologies. I can see the use of it there. Still, you know as well as I do that most non-commercial networks support B/G. The average consumer will likely use an A-only network very rarely, if at all. And if it's really that big of a deal to the owner, it doesn't cost a whole lot to buy an a/b/g/n card and install it...
Regardless, it is still a feature that would cost extra, so any PC comparison better have it, or better have the cost of an upgrade included when comparing it to a Mac. That is my whole point of why a Mac is not over priced.
Fair enough. I did say that it most likely isn't as good. Tell me, though, what is the G73's touch pad made of?
Not glass, and rubber wears down and does not age well.
My point exactly. It's useful for his sort of thing, but the average user of a gaming laptop won't be doing that type of stuff. They chose to drop Firewire in favor of other features that gamers would want. Same with Expresscard.
Again, if your PC laptop doesn't have it, you need to factor in a cost of upgrade when comparing to a Mac.
Fair enough, then. If you want things that raise production cost, add a low range driver, on-the-fly overclocking, a 7200RPM hard drive(optional dual 500GB), a second 2.5" SATA bay, two more DIMMs, a second video output, an optional Blu-Ray drive, an EAX 4.0 compatible sound card, a numpad, and a standard lithium-ion battery to the macbook and see what happens to the cost of it.
This makes no sense, no laptop comes with any of that standard. Maybe the high end Sager laptops that have two hard drives in them, but those are meant for gaming and not a very practical laptop. By definition a laptop is a mobile computer, and battery life is suppose to last a long time. The only thing Apple has yet to adopt is bluray. That does suck for Apple customers. However, apple has HDMI out, which includes 7.1 audio, on every single computer they make. They also have optical audio out. Can support up to 8gigs of RAM, oh and they can also support 500gig SSD drives (if you want to drop $1500 on a 500gig SSD drive that is). Every laptop has a numpad, unless you are talking about a separate num pad on the side? Over clocking on the fly is the dumbest feature for a laptop, sorry not buying it.
It doesn't translate well into real-world performance, but it does translate fairly well into power usage, which was the point pf that comment.
What? That doesn't make any sense. OK, I will give you this. You are rendering a giant file in say Maya, OK, yeah it will render faster with i9, but the Macbook Pro has an i5 in it. I don't get where you get this 30% faster crap, plus Windows is the WORST operating system in the world when it comes to managing resources. It takes more memory and more CPU cycles to run Windows than it does any other OS. That is a fact.
Gamers would do that. Again, this thing isn't made for long battery life. It's a portable gaming system. Performance matters more than portability. It'll most likelly be plugged in while gaming. If battery life is that big of an issue for the owner, they can just buy a second battery...it'd take, what, a minute at most to shut down, swap them out, and power up again?
So you are comparing a small niche market? Your arguments are weak at best. Most laptop users don't game on their laptop. I sure as hell don't and I am a gamer. Most laptop users want mobility. Most laptop users who use their laptop professionally for their job (like me) want on the fly access to a mobile computer. So what does Apple do? They make a laptop for most users, not some niche market for gaming. Apple did sort of go into a niche with the Macbook Air and the iPad, but the iPad is not a laptop, and not comparable. You should compare that to eReaders and other touch screen devices. So, for you to meet the Macbook Pros extensive and impressive battery life your solution is to buy a second battery? Thus, raising the cost of the PC laptop you are comparing.
For $750, that'd have to be a Vaio E-series. E stands for Eco...they're built using "green" technologies. The shell is recycled bottles, so it's going to be a bit flimsier than usual.
It was a model that came with a triple license of software which is why I chose it over the other ones they were looking at. I actually tried getting them a Mac, but they wanted to save $200 by getting the Sony. It came with licenses for XP Pro, Vista and 7 business. It was right before 7 came out so if you bought it you got the free 7 upgrade my mailing something in to Sony. I chose that one because I knew XP was getting old, and I hated Vista and was hoping 7 would be leaps and bounds better. I have no clue if it was made of recycled stuff, and this was like maybe a year or even two years ago. Hard to gauge when that was.
And actually, Aluminum will suffer from permanent deformation before most plastics will. I'm not saying that cheaper plastic is a better choice, and I'm certainly not saying that apple's shells are low quality, but it's not a clear-cut case of aluminum=good and plastic=bad.
Hold a cigarette lighter to plastic and then to aluminum, see which permanently deforms first.
Again, the laptop I mentioned is not built for ultra-high mobility. People DO buy it for power. I could say "Show me a Macbook that comes anywhere close to what the G73's can do." and we'd be here for another week. But that isn't the point. You cannot compare a Bentley Continental to a Saleen S7 apples-to-apples, but they are both equally top-notch vehicles.
You can't really use car analogies for computers either, but I get your point. If I were to buy a PC laptop today, I would go buy a Lenovo or an Asus, as I think they are good machines. My whole point the whole time in every thread though, is that you cannot compare the two, because you have to add so many extra features to the PC to make it comparable to the Macbook pro. Yes, it being 5lbs and under 1 inch thick are huge features. Most users want light weight and portable laptops. Some days I have several meetings across town in different locations. I don't want to haul around some heavy thick ass laptop, which battery only lasts 2 hours (meaning every time I relocate I gotta recharge) and it runs loud because of the massive cooling it needs. Take a loud computer into a meeting, people will get sick of you pretty quickly. You keep comparing everything to gamers. Gaming laptops have a niche market, and guess what, people don't typically buy gaming laptops for professional use. They buy Macs or they buy business class laptops, which are light weight, and have longer battery life. If you want to compare your Asus, you need to find one with in spec of the Mac, including size and weight. Then compare specs, and last price and adjust pricing for whatever features either lack over the other. This is what I do and I get called a fan boy because I try to make a non biased opinion on the comparison. Where as you don't use facts, use niche market devices and come up short when I ask you to match it feature to feature and spec to spec.
Again, those are using the built-in accelerometer. It could be argued that this is part of that system, but SMS as described by Apple is a means of protecting the hard drive.
Sudden Motion Sensor is not just for hard drives. There is a freaking API to access and control it. Please read up on it. The Accelerometer is part of the system which makes up the SMS. SMS was originally designed to shut off hard drives if sudden motion was detected (like a drop) and thus protect your data from physical damage of the hard disk. The fact that there is an API for it, means you can develop for it, and yes it is still part of the SMS. I have no idea why you are even trying to correct me on this.