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spirit said:
No he's talking about the 'external'/third party Marvell SATA 6GB/s controller the ASUS P7P55D-E had. The Intel P55 chipset did not have a SATA 6GB/s controller built in like the newer 6x and 7x chipsets do, so in order to get SATA 6GB/s on the P7P55D-E a Marvell controller had to be used which was slower than the Intel 6GB/s controllers on the 6x and 7x chipsets. Same story with USB 3.0 too.
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I has transfer from SATA3 to USB3 external hard drive at 130 MB/s I'm not sure.
 
Bootup05 said:
Now I'm looking for something new that would be a bit better than the 6870, is only having 1GB of VRAM really that much of a problem?

I will be playing at 1080p

My budget is quite strict, I don't really want to spend anything over £130, but don't know how I'm going to get a 1GB+ card for that price!

EDIT: There are a few 2GB HD6950's on eBay within my budget
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For 1080p 1GB of RAM is OK. I have a 1GB 5870 and playing older games from a few years ago it's fine (cost me £100 second hand on eBay btw and it's faster than a 6870). If buying new though, 2GB would be ideal. Sometimes I notice a tiny bit of lag at 1080p due to lack of V-RAM.

If you can stretch to £140, go for that 2GB 7850. If not, then yeah, a 2GB 6950 will be good.
 
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Bootup05 said:
The CPU is a i3 2100 that I bought from Aastii, and I did have a XFX HD6870, but sold it to pay off my Wonga loan :P

Now I'm looking for something new that would be a bit better than the 6870, is only having 1GB of VRAM really that much of a problem?

I will be playing at 1080p

My budget is quite strict, I don't really want to spend anything over £130, but don't know how I'm going to get a 1GB+ card for that price!

EDIT: There are a few 2GB HD6950's on eBay within my budget
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You won't see much difference between 1gb or 2... Only in some games it will give you a bit less FPS.
Anyway, if you want a more future proof system, most future games will use more vram at lower res, so it's maybe handy to have at least 2gb...
Go for an hd7850 2gb over a hd6950.
 
Jamebonds1 said:
I don't think I have a lot of latency problem on eSATA 6GB/s, USB3 and SATA3. As well as USB3 on my old motherboard. As long as hard drive support SATA3 is need for all of three different type of high speed port. About external controller, do you mean firewire or USB2 hard drive external?
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spirit said:
No he's talking about the 'external'/third party Marvell SATA 6GB/s controller the ASUS P7P55D-E had. The Intel P55 chipset did not have a SATA 6GB/s controller built in like the newer 6x and 7x chipsets do, so in order to get SATA 6GB/s on the P7P55D-E a Marvell controller had to be used which was slower than the Intel 6GB/s controllers on the 6x and 7x chipsets. Same story with USB 3.0 too.
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Exactly.

Jamebonds1 said:
I has transfer from SATA3 to USB3 external hard drive at 130 MB/s I'm not sure.
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It's like you didn't even read spirit's response :rolleyes:


spirit said:
For 1080p 1GB of RAM is OK. I have a 1GB 5870 and playing older games from a few years ago it's fine (cost me £100 second hand on eBay btw and it's faster than a 6870).
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I agree, 1080p isn't very ram intensive for 98% of games, and even the ones that are the 1gb isn't going to bottleneck that much.

spirit said:
If you can stretch to £140, go for that 2GB 7850. If not, then yeah, a 2GB 6950 will be good.
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Not sure if I agree with this though. 7850 doesn't even need 2gb, it's more marketing. For the graphics it can handle, you most likely will never use more than 1gb.

I would not get a 6950 at all, unless it's already unlocked to a 6970. Unlocked 6950's go for a bit cheaper than a full 6970, I think you'd be able to get one for 130 or less.
 
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87dtna said:
Exactly.
I agree, 1080p isn't very ram intensive for 98% of games, and even the ones that are the 1gb isn't going to bottleneck that much.
Not sure if I agree with this though. 7850 doesn't even need 2gb, it's more marketing. For the graphics it can handle, you most likely will never use more than 1gb.
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Yeh, but more and more games are using more ram then 1gb (you can see that when you have 1gb+) vram. That are only the heaviest games maxxed out though. At the moment, you'll only see a difference of about 1-5 fps, idk how fast it will go in the future...
 
Back when I had the gtx 670, the highest settings I could make it on 2560x1440 on metro 2033 the Vram maxxed around 1.5gb. On 1080p, right at 1gb same maxxed out settings.

I hear BF3 is a Vram hog, but who cares that game sucks lol.
 
Okay thanks, there are a few conflicting stories going on here :P

If you guys had £130 to spend, and were looking for a used card, what would you go for?

Here are the rest of my specs

i3 2100 3.1GHz
8GB Patriot 1600MHz DDR3 (probably OC to 1866MHz, just for the hell of it!)
128GB Samsung 830
2TB Seagate SATAIII 7200rpm
 
Bootup05 said:
If you guys had £130 to spend, and were looking for a used card, what would you go for?
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Probably a GTX 560 Ti or a 560 Ti 448 or a 570.

There is a chance this 570 will go for less than £130 http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/EVGA-GTX-...raphics_Video_TV_Cards_TW&hash=item43b8e11a09

On the AMD side, most 5870s are around £100 and 6950s would probably be around the same sort of cost.

For 10 quid extra I'd still go 7850 though. Or go 7850 1GB http://www.novatech.co.uk/products/...aphicscards/amdhd7850series/fx-785a-znfc.html £136.99.
 
The 448 has more cores and an extra 256MB of V-RAM (like the 570, the 560 Ti 448 has 1.25GB).

The 448 is a bit faster, so if you can get one of those. If not, then your regular 560 Ti will be absolutely fine I reckon.

I'd still look out for 570s though.
 
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570's are excellent cards, and it gives you a little extra Vram to 1280mb. I actually picked up a 570 awhile ago for $120 USD, now that was a steal but they can be had all the time for $150 or so which only be 100 UK pounds. Not sure what the going rate for them is over there, but I would think under 130.
 
I hadn't even considered a GTX570!

I take it a stock 570 is a bit better than a 560Ti / 448?

They seem to go from around £115 - £140 on eBay :)

What is the equivalent AMD card?
 
If you find a second hand 570 for less than 130 - go for it! It's still a great card and the extra V-RAM may help you out a bit. 1.25GB should be fine for 1080. :good:
 
So long as you've got 38 amps on the +12V rail you should be OK. According to Linkin's PSU guide, 550W is the recommended minimum wattage for a 570.

Card..................................Wattage .................+12V Amperage
GTX 570...............................550W .........................38A
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I think you'll be OK.
 
Okay thanks, I have 45A so all is good!

The next upgrade after gpu will be an i5 IB, and that's as high as I'm willing to go with this PSU!

One bug bear with this system is that because I bought the cheapest Asus Z68 board, there are no integrated USB3 headers! I'll have to get an add-in card if I want to have USB functionality on the front of the 300R, which could throw a spanner in the works with my cable management :P
 
Should've gotten my board: the P8Z68-V PRO/GEN3. Has USB 3.0 headers. ;)

Or a P8Z77-V PRO if they were about when you bought the parts.
 
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