mattpower3000
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as if sum1 sed 2000, honestly...
Ah but they do. Windows 95 initial release was god awful, but after a service pack or 2 it was ok. Windows 98, again initial release was terrible but by the sime second edition rolled around it was ok.Service packs and patches never change the systems performance. Not drasticly anyway.
i guess i've just never heard any complaints about 2000 where as I have with 2k
Woah! Unstable!? It's a similar situation as to Linux, just to a much lighter degree. If you know what you're doing Windows 9X works like a dream. I've never had a problem that has persisted for more than an hour, and I've been running 98 since I was about 8 years old. All that's changed from 98 to NTFS systems is some serious idiot-proofing, and a loss of DOS compatibility. Granted, a lot of backwards compatibility is baggage, as Praetor stated, but look at Linux. Linux is, with a little tweaking, backwards compatible with just about anything. It's also much much faster than Windows OS's. If backwards compatibility is being sluffed off of new Windows OS's to increase performance, why is Linux able to handle it no problem? Simple. Idiot-proofing. If Windows were to make an advanced user OS, they wouldn't have to worry about spending 40% of their time coding to prevent dipwads from deleting system files.Byteman said:DOS. It's the mistake that bill built unstable shells on top of, (Win95/98/me) and has taken him years to completely get out of production, and producing nos DOS os's (WinNT/2k/XP).
Well you will also know then that in a pre-2K environment you can write programs that fck with hardware directly ... which is stupid ... just stop and think about thatIf you know what you're doing Windows 9X works like a dream. I've never had a problem that has persisted for more than an hour, and I've been running 98 since I was about 8 years old.
Ill go easy on you cuz yer only 15 and say simply that, that was not the only change.All that's changed from 98 to NTFS systems is some serious idiot-proofing, and a loss of DOS compatibility
Yes but development under a linux platform, efficient or otherwise is a pain whereas Windows development is heavily supported and if the community wants stuff badly enough, APIs get madeIt's also much much faster than Windows OS's.
Yes but linux, based on Unix is a lot older than windows. One would expect nothing less. Furthermore, id like to see linux run -- straight out of the box, an arbitrary application, selected from a list of every single x86 application.If backwards compatibility is being sluffed off of new Windows OS's to increase performance, why is Linux able to handle it no problem?
And then people wouldnt use computers meaning there wouldnt be nearly the same market as there is now... meaning less hardware devlopment....Idiot-proofing. If Windows were to make an advanced user OS, they wouldn't have to worry about spending 40% of their time coding to prevent dipwads from deleting system files.
Yes but unleash those same dipwads on a unix based system and you'll have some serious issues. The OSs are targeted at a different user base, claiming an advanced user OS would prevent dipwads from deleting stuff is crazy, dipwads are, by denfinition, dipwads and will bugger up any and everything they canthey wouldn't have to worry about spending 40% of their time coding to prevent dipwads from deleting system files
True enough. More or less the point of my post was more to the effect that if Microsoft would gear a small portion of their efforts to providing an advanced user operating system, they would have a handhold in the advanced user market. Advanced users tend to be much more committed to IT, and if they created an advanced user OS, as well as a series of advanced user applications, they would be able to offer a system that can handle, with great efficiency, not only backwards compatibility, but additionally security functionality, graphical editing capabilities, multi-tasking, and a host of other features that are generally lacking (or that could use improvement).Cromewell said:Yes but unleash those same dipwads on a unix based system and you'll have some serious issues. The OSs are targeted at a different user base, claiming an advanced user OS would prevent dipwads from deleting stuff is crazy, dipwads are, by denfinition, dipwads and will bugger up any and everything they can
By the same means AMD and Intel dont live on the sales of their top end processors but rather to the majority.I'm by no means an advocate of Microsoft products, I'm just amazed that they've let the advanced user market pass them by.
winxp_hater said:I have the file hang up thing