Need job advice

ibhappy

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My 15 yr old son who will be a HS senior next year has two job offers for the summer. He's a smart kid who plans on studying CS at UW-Madison.

One is at Solarus (regional telecom):

http://www.solarus.biz/

And the other is at ZAXX Computers (three computer stores in WI):

http://www.gozaxx.com/

http://www.wisbusiness.com/index.iml?Article=253613

Renaissance Learning is interested too, but they won't hire him until he
turns 16 at the end of September.

http://www.renlearn.com/

Any advice on what he should do?
 
What are the jobs he is being offered? What does he want to get out of the job? If money is the most important thing, which is offering the most money? If experience is what he seeks, which job will be most beneficial toward his CIS studies and his career?
 
I would honestly say, that if he is looking for a job that will last a long time, Do not take the computer job. Computers are a good job for a short time, and they are more a hobby kind of thing. But I think that he will get bored with a job only on computers. Unless he gets rid of viruses, and fixes them like that.
 
I would honestly say, that if he is looking for a job that will last a long time, Do not take the computer job. Computers are a good job for a short time, and they are more a hobby kind of thing. But I think that he will get bored with a job only on computers. Unless he gets rid of viruses, and fixes them like that.

Aren't you 14....
 
I would honestly say, that if he is looking for a job that will last a long time, Do not take the computer job. Computers are a good job for a short time, and they are more a hobby kind of thing. But I think that he will get bored with a job only on computers. Unless he gets rid of viruses, and fixes them like that.


Erm....ok, geuss Bill Gates hobby is going pretty well.

Technology, IT, its all massively more needed more so than ever. If anything a job in the IT sector (except your hardware maintenance, selling pc gear, home repairs) is a good place to be. I mean every office needs a network Admin. Every school needs an admin team with comprehensive IT knowledge. I would say if the right path is chosen in an enviroment thats here to stay (schools, large buisnesses) Working with computers is pretty much a solid stable job.

At least thats my opinion and the reason im trying to get quals for IT work.
 
Erm....ok, geuss Bill Gates hobby is going pretty well.

Technology, IT, its all massively more needed more so than ever. If anything a job in the IT sector (except your hardware maintenance, selling pc gear, home repairs) is a good place to be. I mean every office needs a network Admin. Every school needs an admin team with comprehensive IT knowledge. I would say if the right path is chosen in an enviroment thats here to stay (schools, large buisnesses) Working with computers is pretty much a solid stable job.

At least thats my opinion and the reason im trying to get quals for IT work.

Bill gates is technology, and not computers, well, part computers. And to get a job that can support you so you can get a car, have good insurance in it, and sometime get to rent an apartment, He will need to get a better paying job. If it is for a short time, say a year maybe two, then it would be a good job. Btw I'm pretty sure that bill gates started it with his own business, and not working for someone else.
 
So your telling me every network technician, administrator, and anyone else that works for companies like microsoft, fujitsu, BT, Virgin are all on pennies? :/

Have you ever had a job in computers?

Im currently looking for work, and every time i see a networking job, or something that requires a key set of skill or specialist skills in computers is always the highest paid job iv seen.

I dont want to sound offensive, but it sounds to me your on about fixing computer, ie, replacing a hard drive when a client comes in. Im not talking about hardware repair from home im talking about an actual job.

I think you should have a look at some job site and see how much web designers, network admins etc are actually paid. By my count its certainly enough to run a household and afford a car.


(I actually live in my own house and know the costs involved)
 
Don't get me wrong, There are a lot of jobs involving that kind of thing, But I just doubt that in that area that they have a really good paying job. I could be wrong, but that is my opinion.
 
Have you had a look? What are you basing your opinion on?

What was the last badly payed computer/IT job you had....fixing a pc for family or friends doesn't count.

Im just curious as to what sort of jobs your talking about. Are you still saying network admins etc are badly paid or are you talking about home based jobs?


EDIT: at OP. I saw you said one placement is actually unpaid. I believe if this is the best place for him in his intended career path then he should go for it. Other wise i would advise him to look through the employment offers and see which one will offer him more than money. For example, real world experience in what he'd like to do. Something that he can get a reference from that will look outstanding when he is ready to start full time employment.

I would advise against going for the position that offers the most money as chances are they may be lacking when offering anything else.

Like im sure if mcdonalds were offering him £6,000 a week but M$ were offering him no £200 a week he'd get a much better experience for his chosen career at M$. (obviously the numbers are made up but you get my point)
 
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Have you had a look? What are you basing your opinion on?

What was the last badly payed computer/IT job you had....fixing a pc for family or friends doesn't count.

Im just curious as to what sort of jobs your talking about. Are you still saying network admins etc are badly paid or are you talking about home based jobs?

Home based jobs. And if it is a small, or a newly started business, that he has a job offer on, then it won't pay as much as say a car mechanic. If it is a big and already going company, then it will probably pay a decent amount of money. Now since I don't know the company that offered him a job, It is hard to tell.
 
Home based jobs. And if it is a small, or a newly started business, that he has a job offer on, then it won't pay as much as say a car mechanic. If it is a big and already going company, then it will probably pay a decent amount of money. Now since I don't know the company that offered him a job, It is hard to tell.

Read through my other posts. Actually read them please. They will help understand what i was trying to say.
 
Home based jobs. And if it is a small, or a newly started business, that he has a job offer on, then it won't pay as much as say a car mechanic. If it is a big and already going company, then it will probably pay a decent amount of money. Now since I don't know the company that offered him a job, It is hard to tell.

I went for a job doing the exact same thing for Fujitsu and for a smaller company in St Helens. The one in St Helens paid more.

You are basing what you say on nothing. I can guarentee you two things in IT jobs

1. For the forseeable future there are going to be a lot available and provided you have the necessary training along with a good attitude, you can near enough walk into a job.

2. They pay well and progress quickly, again provided you have the training.

We aren't talking about someone sat at home repairing computers. Working with computers, you have yourself:

Desktop support
Network support
Server support
Mobile support
Network administrator
Server administrator
Database administrator
Security technician
Webmaster
Programmer

the list can easily go on and you are being ignorant to the fact that each of those has dozens of roles within it. Take server for instance, you can specialise in a server role or you can merge it with other things on the list, such as webserver administrator, cloud server administrator, security server, file server, again, the list can go on, and on, and on.


Even if we are talking about a bit of building/repairing computers from home, I can tell you from experience, that helps you get a job. I had on my CV that I used to do it before I had industry experience, because it shows so many things, technical knowledge, good work ethic, enthusiasm, independance, developed people skills.


You think people go through life with just one job? Even if you only do it for a couple of years, that is experience and knowledge that you can take to the next job or the next step of the career.


In this climate, take the job, take any job, regardless of pay or even if it is volountary, take it. You can always be looking for more work whilst doing the job if you decide it isn't for you, but that will only work towards experience and more credentials, making you more employable.

Look at each company on both short and long term benefits:

What will he get from it now? Experience, pay, skills, education?
What can he get from it? Additional training, scope for promotion?

And look at the company itself:

Are they likely to stay afloat?
Are they likely to expand to give him more opportunities?
If things go bad will he be expendable?

Weigh up the pros and cons, but go for every single opportunity.
 
Home based jobs. And if it is a small, or a newly started business, that he has a job offer on, then it won't pay as much as say a car mechanic. If it is a big and already going company, then it will probably pay a decent amount of money. Now since I don't know the company that offered him a job, It is hard to tell.

You really need to do some research before you start posting, because you obviously don't know what kind of jobs are out there in the IT sector.
 
One thing I forgot to mention is that the job at Solarus is unpaid.
Does he just want experience? Or is he looking for a job that gives experience, and money?
Read through my other posts. Actually read them please. They will help understand what i was trying to say.

I did, And I don't get why we are still discussing this. I said that not all computer jobs are good paying, and I was right^^. You are also right, in the area that I was wrong, assuming thing which I shouldn't have......... Aaaaaand that made no sense did it? Ok I am gonna leave it at this, we were both right, just in different areas.
 
I went for a job doing the exact same thing for Fujitsu and for a smaller company in St Helens. The one in St Helens paid more.

You are basing what you say on nothing. I can guarentee you two things in IT jobs

1. For the forseeable future there are going to be a lot available and provided you have the necessary training along with a good attitude, you can near enough walk into a job.

2. They pay well and progress quickly, again provided you have the training.

We aren't talking about someone sat at home repairing computers. Working with computers, you have yourself:

Desktop support
Network support
Server support
Mobile support
Network administrator
Server administrator
Database administrator
Security technician
Webmaster
Programmer

the list can easily go on and you are being ignorant to the fact that each of those has dozens of roles within it. Take server for instance, you can specialise in a server role or you can merge it with other things on the list, such as webserver administrator, cloud server administrator, security server, file server, again, the list can go on, and on, and on.


Even if we are talking about a bit of building/repairing computers from home, I can tell you from experience, that helps you get a job. I had on my CV that I used to do it before I had industry experience, because it shows so many things, technical knowledge, good work ethic, enthusiasm, independance, developed people skills.


You think people go through life with just one job? Even if you only do it for a couple of years, that is experience and knowledge that you can take to the next job or the next step of the career.


In this climate, take the job, take any job, regardless of pay or even if it is volountary, take it. You can always be looking for more work whilst doing the job if you decide it isn't for you, but that will only work towards experience and more credentials, making you more employable.

Look at each company on both short and long term benefits:

What will he get from it now? Experience, pay, skills, education?
What can he get from it? Additional training, scope for promotion?

And look at the company itself:

Are they likely to stay afloat?
Are they likely to expand to give him more opportunities?
If things go bad will he be expendable?

Weigh up the pros and cons, but go for every single opportunity.
Like I said, I made a mistake, And that was by me assuming stuff.
You really need to do some research before you start posting, because you obviously don't know what kind of jobs are out there in the IT sector.
Oh I did, but I was talking about this one job, not all the other jobs. If there was no real money in the IT sector, then it probably wouldn't exist. So of course there are a lot of good paying jobs in the field. I don't think I put it clearly what I meant.
 
Does he just want experience? Or is he looking for a job that gives experience, and money?


I did, And I don't get why we are still discussing this. I said that not all computer jobs are good paying, and I was right^^. You are also right, in the area that I was wrong, assuming thing which I shouldn't have......... Aaaaaand that made no sense did it? Ok I am gonna leave it at this, we were both right, just in different areas.

I'm a parent, so I'm concerned about experience. He's a kid, so he's concerned about money.

In the long run, if Solarus likes him, I think they would offer him a paid position which would probably exceed what he could make at the computer store.
 
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