ganzey
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ehh, no monies
My Custom built computer
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ehh, no monies
I carn't see how a review from newegg means nothing as it doesn't make a difference where the review came from its still the customers review of the product. Besides if what you meant was that it meant nothing as it wasn't an experts review then there is another problem as they would be judging the PSU next to the best brands of them, this would mean that ppl would probably judge them badly as the best PSU's do cost hundreds of pounds in some cases.
I don't agree they are a bad make but i don't suppose they are the best either, as this particular PSU is 80% efficient it might not be the best but its certainly not the worst. I don't intend changing the PSU as i believe that with electronics you get what you pay for and i have found it to be fine for this setup and would recommend it to others, just because you might have had a bad experience with X-Power doesn't mean they are a bad quality.
A 450 watt PSU would blow quickly on this setup as PSU's do lose efficiency slowly after time due to the heat they produce, regardless to this it would limit you to what components you could add to this setup before shortening its life even more.
Bodaggit23
Active Member
He's talking about the quality of the components used to make the PSU's.
Low quality components are just that, no matter what they end up costing at the retail end,
so you most certainly do NOT always, get what you pay for.
Regardless of the PSU as this could go on and on, what do you think of this case for a gaming computer?
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/118268
http://www.ebuyer.com/product/118268
Pretty much burned out on the 900. If you like it I would go with something like the NZXT Tempest EVO / Lian Li Lancool PC K62 or even the AZZA Solano 1000.
Which case would you recommend as they all looked really good? do you know which is the best gaming case out there?
bomberboysk
Active Member
Effeciency, not output. A 450W unit is rated to run 450W continuous at a certain temperature and rated to do so for the mtbf, a 450w is a continuous rating on a quality unit, not a peak rating like cheap power supplies. You are right you get what you pay for, except in your case you have a cheap unit that was extremely marked up by a retailer, a good example is say two identical hard drives, one at $40 and one at $120, just because one cost 3x as much doesnt make it better if it is an identical drive.
jamesd1981
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i disagree. i think they should still put 2 ide slots on mobo's. cause i still got 2 500gb ide drive and my dvd burner is ide. they havent broken so i see no need to upgrade, but it really sucks cause i can only use 1 hdd at a time
hey ganzey have you tried using a sata to ide converter to get round your lack of ide on motherboard you get them at maplin one end is normal sata into motherboard and the other an ide connection then you could use all your ide gear at the same time.
1st. Lian Li. Everthing rubber mounted, even the power supply has a rubber padded clamp down, tool less, good cable management, comes with thumb screws for the motherboard. Harddrive cage points to the side(drives easy to get in and out) Really a well made case.
2nd. NZXT. Really no complaints, just not as a quality case as the Lian Li, more basic.
3rd. AZZA. Nice case, Full size lots of room. Biggest compaint was the side fan, In the middle of the panel instead of being lower, interferes with larger CPU coolers.
bomberboysk
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Totally agree, ive built two systems using the lancool cases and they are top notch midrange cases, i love them in every way.
I had the K62 but give it to my daughter
. You know I,ve been looking at the Gigabyte 3D Mars. Never know anybody that had a Gigabyte case. Have no idea who makes Gigabytes cases, but it looks like a well built case.
. You know I,ve been looking at the Gigabyte 3D Mars. Never know anybody that had a Gigabyte case. Have no idea who makes Gigabytes cases, but it looks like a well built case.Stoic Sentinel
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I had the K62 but give it to my daughter
I came so close to getting a Gigabyte case, but ended up buying the NZXT Beta
to OP, why do you ask for help, and when we say that the PSU would be worth upgrading do you shoot us down. I thought the whole point of coming to a computer forum was to get the advice of people that tend to know a bit about computers
I didn't ask for help i just asked what you thought of the computer, i understand that you think the PSU is the worst part of the computer and it could do with being replaced by a better quailty one but there is no need to be so critical(its not the worst make out there, this is what ive been trying to say).
As i only bought the PSU last week, while not being so interested in the make as i couldn't afford a top quailty one i only wanted one that would work without causing major problems, i carn't go out and replace it just like that.
I have been building computers for myself and others for a while now and although the power supply is important i don't think unless you have the money to spend its worth getting the best of the best as a middle range PSU would work ok. If i was going to make the very top end gaming computer then i would make sure all the parts were the best quailty.
Thanks stranglehold for the help!
You are right that the better PSU you get the closer to the advertised wattage you have, but all PSU's wattage that they are advatised with are what the companeys can get them to at max for a short amount of time with perfect conditions. This means that the PSU is acually lower in watts for continuless use then what its advertised at(although it could get to being used at the advertised wattage for a very short time, this is not reccomended), as you say the better PSU the closer you get to the advetised wattage.
What do you think of this case?
http://www.digitalpromo.co.uk/nzxt-...-window-3x12cm-fans-no-psu-retail-p-4901.html
http://www.digitalpromo.co.uk/nzxt-...-window-3x12cm-fans-no-psu-retail-p-4901.html
No they dont. Like said, most cheap power supplies companies rate their power supplies at what the peak rate is, not the continuous rate.
Like mine is listed/rated as a 750W, but really its peak rate is 810W. Where a lowend company that list/rate it as a 750W is its peak rate, but its continuous is only something like 690W. Just a example, but they want you to think your getting more than you really are, plus they are made out of cheaper components too.
Millions of people buy cheap stuff every day that never breaks down on them, but it doesnt change anything because millions have cheap stuff that does. I saw a Yugo go down the road the other day, but I didnt have a urge to go out and buy one.
Plus the fact that, if thats all the money you have got to buy it. There is nothing wrong with that at all. But it doesnt some how change that fact of what it is.
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Bodaggit23
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Weird. We have one of these at work and it's a $100 rattle trap.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811112099
bomberboysk
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Nope, a quality manufacturer will rate the unit for what it is specified to run continuous at. A good example of this is pc power and cooling which actually hand tests their units and with some units provides a paper detailing exactly how high it can run continous(always at or above the advertised wattage), as well as peak wattage on the unit.