Someone said that it will work on a phenom 955, but how come (http://www.microcenter.com/single_product_results.phtml?product_id=0299478) says that it's only compatible with AM2+ and AM2 socket? It will work on the AM3 socket right?
AMD Phenom 955 Heatsink
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If I say no does that mean you won't get it?
You already had your mind set on the V8, so why bother posting? It's sad when a 16 year old that doesn't have 3 computer builds to his name can convince you so easily.
The current ones - yes they work on AM3 socket. If Microcenter sits on inventory for a very long time - maybe not - but if you're buying locally, you can read the side of the box and it sayswhat sockets the product supports. The one I got from Newegg as a Black Friday sale had a universal plate for core Socket 775, i5, i3, i7, AM2 & AM3 on their instruction sheets
Aastii
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Linkin, the V8 is very VERY over rated.
Can I throw a curve ball and say, even though it is more expensive, seriously consider
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835242001
+
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835242003
+ 120mm fan of your choice
It is more expensive, but it is expensive for a reason, it keeps the CPU effing cold. I built a system for a friend with a 965BE in, OCed it to 4GHz with that on and isn't going over 45 under stress
bomberboysk
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Definately, the V8 is at best a mediocre cooler unless you get a very good deal on it, although these days the venomous-X by thermalright outperforms the megahalems by a small margin but is a good bit more expensive.
Aastii
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don't think we got them over here yet. Do you have a link to any benchmarks of it that have been done? I say the megahalems temps and was shocked, would like to see it be outperformed
I have found so many useful information. One last question:
What makes any heatsink a good heatsink?
They all use the same concept. Copper for the base because it has a high heat transfer rate and aluminum for the body of the heatsink because it has a high heat retention status. This frame http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835242001 is almost the same as the V8's structure in terms of surface area for the aluminum body. They all redirect the heat away from the core and store it in the aluminum body in a higher up place. So is it the fan that plays a major role in determining how good a cooler is? Right now, I don't have my mind set on the V8 yet. Some of you said that my eye is set on the V8. Just need more information before I buy anything.
PS: atm, I have a hose running from outside (28 degree F) to my processor to keep it cool
What makes any heatsink a good heatsink?
They all use the same concept. Copper for the base because it has a high heat transfer rate and aluminum for the body of the heatsink because it has a high heat retention status. This frame http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835242001 is almost the same as the V8's structure in terms of surface area for the aluminum body. They all redirect the heat away from the core and store it in the aluminum body in a higher up place. So is it the fan that plays a major role in determining how good a cooler is? Right now, I don't have my mind set on the V8 yet. Some of you said that my eye is set on the V8. Just need more information before I buy anything.
PS: atm, I have a hose running from outside (28 degree F) to my processor to keep it cool
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Will someone else agree with me that the freezer pro is a good cooler, because the OP apparently doesn't like listening to me.
It's basically a smaller TRUE, or venomous X (which is the newer version of the TRUE) for $28 with free shipping. It's more than enough CPU cooler for a Phenom II.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...5125&cm_re=freezer_pro-_-35-185-125-_-Product
It's basically a smaller TRUE, or venomous X (which is the newer version of the TRUE) for $28 with free shipping. It's more than enough CPU cooler for a Phenom II.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produ...5125&cm_re=freezer_pro-_-35-185-125-_-Product
Aastii
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I have found so many useful information. One last question:
What makes any heatsink a good heatsink?
They all use the same concept. Copper for the base because it has a high heat transfer rate and aluminum for the body of the heatsink because it has a high heat retention status. This frame http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16835242001 is almost the same as the V8's structure in terms of surface area for the aluminum body. They all redirect the heat away from the core and store it in the aluminum body in a higher up place. So is it the fan that plays a major role in determining how good a cooler is? Right now, I don't have my mind set on the V8 yet. Some of you said that my eye is set on the V8. Just need more information before I buy anything.
PS: atm, I have a hose running from outside (28 degree F) to my processor to keep it cool
It is about fin design, pipe design, quality of metals used, lots of factors basically. Some do it better than others, and these are generally more expensive because of the higher quality of the production (which makes it more expensive to produce) and becauase people will pay extra for the better cooling.
It is good for its price, but if the OP plans on overclocking he will be able to get much further on a better CPU. If not though, on stock it will be fine for it, heck the stock HS+fan would be, especially if lapped
Aastii
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That is what I said, it is good for its price, however if you plan overclocking, you won't go as far on that as it will on the more reputable heatsinks.
And I am not saying AC aren't reputable, they have some very good cooling products, however that particular one isn't as good as the megahalems or venomous-x or the other "big boys" of the CPU cooling
Phenom II's don't create that much heat. My Phenom II quad overclocked to 3.8 ghz took 1.50 Vcore to get stable. I actually removed my coolermaster GeminII heatsink to put a stocker on (the best stocker from a 955be, the one with 4 copper heat pipes) and temps maxxed at 65c prime95 small fft at 3.8ghz 1.50 Vcore. The freezer pro will keep it MUCH cooler than that, at minimum 10c cooler if not 15.
With the TRUE, temps stayed BELOW 50c at 3.9ghz which took 1.575 Vcore to achieve stable. The freezer pro is just a smaller TRUE, so I'm very confident that it will stay cool enough no matter what he does.
Aastii
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I would rather buy a megahalems or vememous and have it never go over 40 than buy a cheaper one and never have it go over 50. To state the obvious, more heat=shorter life span for CPUs, so the cooler, the better in the long run. You may have to dis out 2, 3 times as much in the short term, but in the long run you are saving the cost of a new CPU a year or 2 earlier than you otherwise would have to. Yes, that may come when phenomII's are well and truely outdated for an every day PC, but you can stick one in a server PC or whatever "low" CPU load systems are required in the future.
As much as you are having a go at linkin for liking the V8, I think you need to think about yourself for a moment thinking that the cooler you put up is the be all and end all, a little bit of hypocracy going on here me thinks
Those two you mentioned are no better than the TRUE I have. No air cooler will keep a quad core at 1.575 Vcore and 25% overclock under 40c. You are just as misinformed/unexperienced as he is to make that statement.
99% of people won't crank the juice like I do either. Most people get scared to go above 1.4 Vcore. And at 3.6ghz and 1.4 Vcore, the freezer pro will keep it as cool as any other air cooler you can buy. So guess the real question should be directed at the OP, how much is he going to be overclocking and what Vcore would he be comfortable using.
There's also nothing hypocritical about my statements. I'm saying that the freezer pro sounds to me like the best cooler for his situation. If he was building at I7 rig and planned to overclock to 4ghz+, than yeah I would be recommending the same coolers as you have if not water/dice/ln2/etc. But again for his situation, anything more than a freezer pro is simply a waste of money and install time.
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Aastii
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you do realise that those figures were for illustrative reasons, rather than actual figures from a system, right
?the whole point is that yes, the cooler you have is good and has good cost
erformance ratio, however there are better out there that will keep his chip cooler, even though they may cost more; the one you are on about yes, is alright, but it isn't the ONLY option and it isn't the best optionEverything's relative here to what you want it to do and what you're willing to pay. I wanted a Noctua - wanted a Megahelms with 2 fans - but put off buying either b/c of price. I was interested in the V8 too - but wasn't willing to pay 70 bucks for it.
I just kept an eye on sales as they came about - and used my stock cooler. On Black friday I picked up a V8 for 39 bucks and couldn't be happier with it - well unless I picked up a Noctua for similar price
There was another I almost picked up - but I missed the sale price so waited a bit to pick up the V8
I just kept an eye on sales as they came about - and used my stock cooler. On Black friday I picked up a V8 for 39 bucks and couldn't be happier with it - well unless I picked up a Noctua for similar price
There was another I almost picked up - but I missed the sale price so waited a bit to pick up the V8
Phenom II's simply don't produce as much heat as comparable intel cpu's, thats a fact. I ran my Phenom II quad at 3.8ghz with the stock cooler 24/7 with no issues. Yes like you said if for some strange reason you think you are going to use the CPU for a server down the road (umm which 98% of PC users don't do) the AF64 will keep the CPU plenty cool for longevity.
Most are fine.
Can you answer this question though....what are your overclocking goals and how high of Voltage would you feel comfortable putting to the CPU?
Forget both of them. The A/C Freezer 64 pro is a ok cooler, pretty much a lowerend one. The C/M V8 is overpriced for it cooling ability.
You can get a Zerotherm ZF120 for 7 bucks more with free shipping then the Freezer 64. And the ZF120 will lay waste to it, kick it around and spit on it. You dont have to take the board out and you can mount the cooler in any direction you want to. Even comes with pretty good compound.
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=10008565
You can get a Zerotherm ZF120 for 7 bucks more with free shipping then the Freezer 64. And the ZF120 will lay waste to it, kick it around and spit on it. You dont have to take the board out and you can mount the cooler in any direction you want to. Even comes with pretty good compound.
http://www.zipzoomfly.com/jsp/ProductDetail.jsp?ProductCode=10008565