Mac Pro vs other laptop

DMGrier said:
I am not saying that the Mac does have some up's but some of them really don't matter example being screen resolution to most is not going to matter considering most computer users don't need Facebook in HD. The baseline Macbook Pro does not come with a i7 it comes with a i5 2.3 Ghz where as a PC in the price range will usually come with the 2.5 Ghz i5. Aluminum body does not matter in fact for cooling purpose it is not good and I explained in a earlier discussion which no one could prove me wrong on that one. Thunderbolt completely awesome technology but 80% of computer users will never use it.

Here is the reality, Mac's are not built any better and most of it features users wont care about and if they do you can get all the same features with the exception to the things the Apple has patent for about 2-300 dollars less. What it comes down to is if you want performance and gaming Windows is the best option, if you want the same performance if not better performance and outstanding security Linux is the next best option. Apple in my opinion is only good for those who want the name and that is not a bad thing but don't make the argument that Mac's price can be justified cause they cannot. They do offer a lot of cool stuff but 90% of users do not care about and would prefer to see a Macbook with a slightly lower resolution screen, no thunderbolt and even a Mac with a i3 if they could save a few hundred bucks.
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Now I'm starting to get confused :D I switched to comparing the high end one since that is what I thought you were comparing it too.

I'm in no way saying that the Macbook Pro is priced in the same tier as some laptops now, but don't in any way say that all of us buy it just for the name. The design is unmatched, I don't want 20 thousand LEDs in my laptop, I personally think that looks tacky now. And, if I could get Mac OS on a different laptop of course I would! The point of a Mac is not just because it is a Mac, it is because of Mac OS, which is, in my opinion, one of the best OSs out there. Of course I use Linux too.. but I like Mac OS better. I personally plan on getting a 15-inch Macbook Pro as soon as I can get a job. I too believe that they COULD lower their prices maybe 100-200 dollars, but since they are one-of-a-kind, (Legally) There is no other computer that can do what they can do.
 
The Mac is a good looking computer but in my opinion getting old. I loved the Macbook when it came in black cause it was different. I am tired of there white color, I remember when the Mac's use to be so colorful and unique.
 
I completely agree with you that I would love a Tangerine Macbook Pro, but in this day and age it might look a little weird walking around with a clamshell now wouldn't it :D

I am in the process of purchasing an orange ipod shuffle, then an orange nano, then an.... lemme stop myself there.
 
Perkomate said:
just gonna throw in my 2 cents here.

If you want to have the brand, then go Apple.
If you want to have value for money, go for a Windows machine.
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High end PC laptops with similar specs are about the same price as the Macbook Pro. The major difference is the screen quality, and Apple doesn't skimp on this feature. They use typically very high end spec screens, in some cases some of their devices have IPS screens, which can range over thousands of dollars just for a the screen . Depending on size and such.

Contrary to popular beliefs, Mac's aren't virus proof. They also aren't any faster than a Windows computer with the same specs.
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This is where I will have to put my foot down and call this just plain wrong information. There are zero viruses in the wild for OS X or any Unix based OS for that matter. A virus self replicates by definition. A virus is NOT malware, spyware, Trojans, etc. If you really want to get into the security specifications and pros and cons of every platform out there, you should at least get your terminology right.

Most Malware fools the user into installing it anyway, by masking itself as legit software. The human element cannot be fixed by technology, humans have to be trained on how to properly use their technology.

The problem is, that to get the same specs, they start to become very VERY overpriced. I mean, to upgrade it on their website, is so much more expensive than a Windows computer.

Just have a think about what you need.
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That is why you buy extra RAM third party.

Also, the Macbooks I believe have been discontinued, so expect either a new model of laptops coming out, or just iOS devices, the Macbook Air and the macbook Pro.
 
Des_Zac said:
I hate to fight about Mac vs. PC but..

#1 That laptop has a lower res screen, the Macbook Pro has 1920x1200.

#2 This Comes with Home Premium and you would have to pay an extra 210 dollars to get the best Windows OS, while Macs have one version of the OS, unless you consider the Server edition which is only $50 more.

#3 It doesn't have a better i7, the Macbook Pro clocks at 2.2Ghz and the Windows laptop you mentioned is only at 2.0Ghz.

#4 The Macbook Pro has a built in HD iSight Camera.

#5 The Macbook Pro comes with iLife 2011.

#6 Thunderbolt and Firewire 800 ports

#7 Comes with 100 dollar Mac App Store Gift Card

#8 Aluminum Unibody Enclosure

P.S. I was comparing to the base model.
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Lets compare Macbook Pro to Overpriced PC.
Ok

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834200296

It kills the macbook pro and also is $200 bucks cheaper. And it literally kills the macbook.
And still Alienware is overpriced for a Windows PC.
 
mihir said:
Lets compare Macbook Pro to Overpriced PC.
Ok

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834200296

It kills the macbook pro and also is $200 bucks cheaper. And it literally kills the macbook.
And still Alienware is overpriced for a Windows PC.
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But it's not practical, it's 12 pounds, thick as a textbook, and not to mention ugly :eek:

A Macbook Pro can be upgraded to close to those specs, the processor in the MBP is still better from what I can see.

It comes with Home, so for you to get Ultimate you'd have to invest an extra $210.00. Bringing it to the Price of the MBP.

It has a lower-res display.

The MBP has an HD Camera.

I would never get that Laptop, and if someone got it for me I'd return it :eek:
 
Ultimate compared to home has very little difference. The guy above picked out an awesome laptop. And no HD camera? Once again, with the price difference, you could pick up an HD camera and still have money to spend.

All in all, nothing we can do will convince you that a PC is better and nothing you can do will make us think a mac will be better.
 
home premium will limit how much ram you can stuff in it to 16 gigs...if you want more than that, you need professional or better.
 
Razer Blade
I know it's $300 more than a stock MBP, but the hardware is way superior, more than enough to justify the extra cost, and then some.
 
tlarkin said:
This is where I will have to put my foot down and call this just plain wrong information. There are zero viruses in the wild for OS X or any Unix based OS for that matter. A virus self replicates by definition. A virus is NOT malware, spyware, Trojans, etc. If you really want to get into the security specifications and pros and cons of every platform out there, you should at least get your terminology right.

Most Malware fools the user into installing it anyway, by masking itself as legit software. The human element cannot be fixed by technology, humans have to be trained on how to properly use their technology.

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There is no such thing as a virus-invulnerable OS. And also by saying viruses, I meant to include trojans and the like.

Unrelated, but I could get into a very long debate about how overpriced Macs are, but meh. I'll leave that to everyone else.
 
bm23 said:
Razer Blade
I know it's $300 more than a stock MBP, but the hardware is way superior, more than enough to justify the extra cost, and then some.
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if that is more than a MBP your getting ripped off. You can get a far superior Alienware for hundreds less than a MBP and they are still overpriced.
claptonman said:
All in all, nothing we can do will convince you that a PC is better and nothing you can do will make us think a mac will be better.
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that is the most eloquent point said in this thread. And absolutely true. You will never convince me that MBP isnt worth the money.
 
Former windows user here. I no longer run windows as I have a Macbook Pro. I will not take sides with anyone here, you have the money to buy a Mac then go buy it, you have the money to buy a windows Based laptop ? then do so.

Each of those laptops have their advantages over another. You CAN'T boil a discussion to Macs > windows or windows > Macs.Not possible. Tlarkin knows his stuff, he's not selling Macs to anyone but merely pointing out facts. Facts that everyone seem to avoid.

However I will say this. Only retards will come on a forum and say windows > Mac and Mac >windows. This is an infinite debate, it's pointless.

There is no such thing as a virus-invulnerable OS.
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There is.. unix and Macs are based off that, same for Linux. ;)
 
Yiannis said:
Hello,

I have always had Windows laptops and only experience with HP, Dell and Toshiba. Now this is what I do on my laptop:

1. Watch movies
2. Play Fotball Manager (low graphics high processing power needed)
3. Browse the internet
4. Programming for websites e.g building ecommerce websites

I am not sure if I should get a really good windows laptop for 800 Euros or get the same specs Mac Pro for 1800 Euros.

Could someone tell me if it is advisable to go for a Mac Pro instead of another laptop? I mean is it worth the money for what I want it to do?

Thanks.
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If you're willing to spend money, buy your Macbook Pro. No one on here can make your decision because most people on here are biased and those discussion ends up in argument to a closed thread. Do a little research here and there, go to the Apple store if needed and go hands on with the MacBooks and make your decision. If they don't fit you, it's your choice to another laptop.

I've had mine for a while now and I do only webdesign/graphics and stuff, it suits me as a good machine. Your experience might be different though.

and Oh, THIS is available for Macs.
 
patrickv said:
Hahah you know, I seriously LOL'd at this one :rolleyes:
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Glad you got a good laugh I guess :confused:?

But what about the technology that matters to users that Apple does not have? Example being is thunderbolt is cool but 95% of users will never use it, but what about USB 3.0? Apple does not have HDMI and VGA? How about max resolution output for macbook pro is 720p due to gpu unless you purchase the $1,800 dollar model. No Bluray or 3D screen technology or touch screen.

Dell XPS 17"
2nd generation Intel® Core™ i7-2620M processor 2.70 GHz with Turbo Boost 2.0 up to 3.40 GHz
NVIDIA® GeForce® GT 555M 3GB graphics with Optimus
8GB Shared Dual Channel DDR3 Memory
750GB 7200 RPM SATA Hard Drive
17.3" FHD (1080p) with 2.0MP HD Webcam
Tray Load Blu-ray Disc BD-Combo (Reads BD and Writes to DVD/CD
Intel© Centrino© Advanced-N 6230 and Bluetooth 3.0
JBL 2.1 Speakers with Waves Maxx Audio 3 + Creative SoundBlaster X-FI MB 1.2
$1,814.99, I would take this over any Mac and if I want I can run Windows or my Favorite Linux Distro if I need the security of OSX.
 
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Those who do not want to run Windows but want a Linux OS without doing the installing them self could go with system76 and this for the price rivals a Mac in its price.

http://www.system76.com/product_info.php?cPath=28&products_id=114

System76 Serval Professional $1,349.00
Display: 15.6" Full HD LED Glossy Display (1920 x 1080)
Graphics: up to nVidia GeForce GTX 580M - The worlds fastest mobile GPU
Touchpad: Multitouch with two finger scrolling
Audio Output: THX TruStudio PRO
Networking: Gigabit LAN (10/100/1000), WiFi
Wireless: Intel Wireless 802.11 abgn
Ports: DVI-I, HDMI, 2 x USB 3.0, 2 x USB 2.0, eSata/USB 2.0 Combo Port, FireWire Port, Headphone Jack, Microphone Jack, S/PDIF Output Jack, Audio Line In, SD Reader
Camera: Built-In 2.0 MP Webcam
Security: Fingerprint Reader, Kensington® Lock
Power Management: Suspend & Hibernate
Battery: Serval Pro Li-Polymer Battery Pack
AC Adapter: includes one AC adapter
Dimensions: 14.80" x 10.08" x 1.38"~1.69" (WxDxH)
 
bm23 said:
Razer Blade
I know it's $300 more than a stock MBP, but the hardware is way superior, more than enough to justify the extra cost, and then some.
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Oh..My..GOD..

That laptop is awesome! It's got killer specs, and it's still less than an inch thin! Not to mention that wicked LCD touchpad and customizable LCD keys :eek:
 
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speedyink said:
Oh..My..GOD..

That laptop is awesome! It's got killer specs, and it's still less than an inch thin! Not to mention that wicked LCD touchpad and customizable LCD keys :eek:
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Still, unless I hit the lottery there is no way I would spend that much just for that touch screen attachment : / Plus it only has a 320 GB Hard drive, that could be better if I'm going to spend 2700 dollars on it.
 
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