Modern warfare 2 dedi server petition

Aastii

Aastii

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As just about all of you probably know, IW have f**ked over the PC gamers by not allowing dedicated servers and only using their IW.net system.

There is a petition going to get them to try and change their minds, you can sign up here:

http://www.petitiononline.com/dedis4mw/petition.html

Also, just about everyone who knows about this now is also cancelling the preorder, you don't get anything from it anyway, just get it straight away, which will be pointless because without dedi servers the online will be crap. Now obviously this is up to you, but I an many others are dropping the preorder, again in protest, so that is another option for you, but please please sign the petition

There are other things you can do too:

facebook group: http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=160475627932

Steam Group: search boycott modern warfare 2 on groups and it comes up

put something about your view on the IW site (DON'T make another post, people are getting pissed at people making lots of threads, it will get deleted): http://www.infinityward.com/forum/viewforum.php?f=13
 
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Wow im shocked that they are doing this!

so does this mean that half the time there wont be any servers?

ive also got this game on pre-order.

Sighned anyway!
 
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I got a visitor message asking what it is all about. If you don't know then i will put it all here:

http://bashandslash.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=745&Itemid=111

you can listen to the interview here: http://www.ustream.tv/recorded/2369799

for those that don't want to read or listen, i will sumarise:

this is from Fourzerotwo who is basically the head developer of the multiplayer side of the game, so it is very trustworthy, it is from IW themselves. Basically, what he has said is this:

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We're doing a lot on the backend to make the game accessible for everyone.
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There is no delay for the PC version of MW2
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There's prestige mode
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Jason West at the MP event, said that he was dead on, on the matchmaking servers. We've been building a system on the backend called IW.NET.
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You are completely reliant on IW.NET. There are no server lists. There are no dedicated servers.
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You have private matches where you can customize the game
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You cannot put MW2 on a dedicated server.
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This is the first time we've ever done something like this and the team has huge plans for what IW.NET develops into.
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Customizing your game...you have quite a few options in a private match
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You're getting same game (as in Console), plus matchmaking and private match.
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Server admin point-of view, NO DEDICATED SERVERS

I've summarized some of my own thoughts from the cast here:

General

* IW partnering through Steam is what you will see in the future. Matchmaking is not through Steam, but IW.NET is run in conjunction with Steam.
* GSP's will no longer be renting out servers.
* No PunkBuster. VAC will be used as an anti cheat.
* Retail distribution: Pre-orders will get a disk. Or you could order from Steam.
* DLC may now need to be paid for - not confirmed.
* Piracy was only a small reason for going to IW.NET - not the whole reason.

Clans:

* No more clan servers. Private matches, replace clan servers.
* Listen servers will connect to each other.
* IW.NET/Steam will replace the community server admin

Competitive Gaming

* Competitive gaming has changed forever.
* It might be possible in the future for IW engineers to load a "competitive" setting on IW.NET, but it is far from a guarantee. It might also never happen.

Modding

* Modding the game is now very much in question. Fourzerotwo had no info on modding. However, it appears that there will be no mods or maps for MW2.
* Modding in SpecOps? Unknown.

So what this means:

NO dedicated servers, so no clan servers, or clans.

NO being able to have clan matches/join other clan servers

NO punkbuster, instead they will be using VAC (Valve Anti-Cheat System), the same thing used in CS:S, HL:deathmatch, TF2, L4D etc

NO moderating servers

There will be private matches, but they can't be moderated by anyone and not just anyone can join, they must be invited

There is apparently also a possibility that PC gamers will now have to pay for updates, map packs, patches etc, much like console gamers do.

There is a possibility of a couple of things where EVENTUALLY there will be dedi servers. They are:

(*=low chance, *****=very high chance)

Initially there will be both dedi and matchmaking systems (**)
A few patches in the future, there will be dedi servers, similar to what L4D was initially (****)

All from the top, but not finalised yet, but I for one am dropping my preorder right now and waiting for the game to come out to see if it is all true before I get it, i'm not getting some sucky game where you have to go through a matchmaking system with no clan servers

You can read about what the community think from the IW forums here:

http://www.infinityward.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=13&t=107652&sid=493e4913cac2979c521877de101050f5
 
NO punkbuster, instead they will be using VAC (Valve Anti-Cheat System
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Actualy i would favour VAC over Punkbuster....ive had a fair share of punkbuster problems in the past...and if someone manages to get hold of your cd key and hacks then punkbuster bans it....they will not reverse the ban even if you can prove it wasnt you!:cool:

I think thats a good move,but everything else theyre planning on doing must no go ahead or it will ruin the game!

no clan servers? wtf :cool:
 
Nevakonaza said:
Actualy i would favour VAC over Punkbuster....ive had a fair share of punkbuster problems in the past...and if someone manages to get hold of your cd key and hacks then punkbuster bans it....they will not reverse the ban even if you can prove it wasnt you!:cool:

I think thats a good move,but everything else theyre planning on doing must no go ahead or it will ruin the game!

no clan servers? wtf :cool:
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With PB, you can appeal against the ban if your GUID gets hacked or if some idiot moderator PB bans your account, if you can prove it wasn't you doing the bad stuff.

With VAC though, once you are banned, that is it, you can't appeal, you can't do anything.

Both perform the same job and both do it well, but I much prefer PB over VAC because you have more control over it

I really don't understand what IW are playing at the minute, especially this close to release
 
Aastii said:
With PB, you can appeal against the ban if your GUID gets hacked or if some idiot moderator PB bans your account, if you can prove it wasn't you doing the bad stuff.
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Ive appealed before when my cod4 key got stolen,and someone from the us hacked with it!

on the punkbusted site you can type in your GUID and it lists what country your guid has been used in....Uk came up (obviusly me) and someone in the us! the hacker....i shown them this proof and they didnt want to know.

ended up buying a new key.....but i suppose you are right about them both been alike,ive not run into any problems with Vac though....and steam was VERY helpfull when my steam account got hacked.
 
steam accounts getting hacked is nothing to do with VAC.

They will help you get your account back, BUT, if your account got hacked, the hacker went on say TF2 and HL:deathmatch and used hacks and you got VAC banned, they wouldn't want to hear about it.
 
Aastii...would it be okay with you for me to copy and paste this post of yours on other forums i go on? will help on the petition ;)
 
Nevakonaza said:
Aastii...would it be okay with you for me to copy and paste this post of yours on other forums i go on? will help on the petition ;)
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yes please do, anyone else that wants to do it, go for it

bomberboysk said:
Dont forget to tweet/facebook it/etc and tell people to Retweet and such.
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I have done just that :0 already got it up on facebook, told my parents and friends (who don't even game) to go do it, have told just about everyone on my MSN contact list about it and have posted on my clan forum about it...i think i have done my part :P
 
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