Vaporware vs the real deal

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wonderboy1953

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I feel that the forthcoming USB 3.0 computer (at the retail level) will be solid versus the shaky Intel Thunderbolt. I also feel that any car that's supposed to be fully driven by a computer will also be shaky as far as to how effective it will be (since it's complicated).

Maybe you would like to discuss your thoughts on this or any other technologies in the works.
 
You have some obsession with USB 3.0, and some sort of inability to read and understand whenever anyone tells you that USB 3.0 is not something new that isn't out yet. Computers have had it and use it for quite a while, in fact in technology terms, for a very, very long time
 
My board has USB3.0, it also has a 3.0 front panel header. I don't have any USB3.0 devices yet, but at least I know I can get the most out of my regular USB stuff.
 
What do you define as shaky? Won't sell well? Will have problems? Will be beat out by competition? Will not be supported? Will not be well known? etc...

Anyway, thunderbolt is also out in the world, macbook pro's come with the port. Its not as well received as usb3.0 (also out in the world), and thunderbolt reminds me of firewire, but its nice to have it as a potential option.

As for cars that drive themselves, nothing is too complicated in this day and age. Besides, google is working on it, you know its going to be good. :D
 
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Aastii said:
You have some obsession with USB 3.0, and some sort of inability to read and understand whenever anyone tells you that USB 3.0 is not something new that isn't out yet. Computers have had it and use it for quite a while, in fact in technology terms, for a very, very long time
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You're missing the point of this thread as the title explains. Of course I'm eagerly awaiting the release of the completed system next year (I've also made it clear that I don't build computer systems). The point to this thread is what new technology will turn out to be vaporware and which isn't and I was only using the USB 3.0 system vs Thunderbolt as an example.

I've also used the fully electronic car or computer car (if that's what it will be called) as an example because not only do the electronics have to be right, it has to catch on in the consumer market (i.e. competitively priced right and any other issues involved) plus it has to be supported in the legal system (i.e. the police and the courts) and you already know that the US and state and local governments will be involved and whatever goes on in other countries.

But there are many other proposed technologies concerning the computer and electronics which may just turn out to be vaporware that may be worthy of discussion.
 
USB 3.0 will stay as the default, Thunderbolt will end up being like firewire - used in a niche market, pretty much only by Apple, who are the only ones that use Thunderbolt right now
 
Aastii said:
USB 3.0 will stay as the default, Thunderbolt will end up being like firewire - used in a niche market, pretty much only by Apple, who are the only ones that use Thunderbolt right now
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I have to agree, however disappointing 3.0 turned out to be. I was looking for some awesome transfer speeds compared to 2.0, but all I got was about a 15MB/s increase. Sadness.

It would probably help the thread if you threw out some proposed technologies for use to actually discuss....as there are many
 
Troncoso said:
I have to agree, however disappointing 3.0 turned out to be. I was looking for some awesome transfer speeds compared to 2.0, but all I got was about a 15MB/s increase. Sadness.

It would probably help the thread if you threw out some proposed technologies for use to actually discuss....as there are many
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Yeah I haven't even seen many USB 3.0 devices out. I prefer eSATA myself for external hard drives.
 
voyagerfan99 said:
Yeah I haven't even seen many USB 3.0 devices out. I prefer eSATA myself for external hard drives.
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Just external drives so far. Not worth any extra money they may cost. Saving 5 seconds of transfer time will not aid many people.

I agree that eSATA is a much better external drive option.
 
On the topic of vaporware...

I hate how every other week I read about some fantastic new technology that is going to revolutionize some aspect of computing... and then never hear about it again.

I don't think self driving cars count as vaporware. Vaporware is when a company draws publicity towards technology that is far from or never finished. As far as I know Google hasn't really tried to draw any publicity to their self driving car development. They like to keep things quiet until a project is in the beta stage.
 
I know Thunder bolt is for transferring data but for what devices? I'm just saying when I walk into a store all I see is things for usb 3.0.
 
Is the forthcoming hydrogen car...

going to be the real deal or vaporware, what are your thoughts? (my gut feeling is it's going to be the real deal)
 
wonderboy1953 said:
going to be the real deal or vaporware, what are your thoughts? (my gut feeling is it's going to be the real deal)
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I agree with what everyone else said. Apple will probably be the only one to really adopt it and use it. It'll be along the same lines as Firewire.
 
The hydrogen car will catch on I think when it becomes financially viable for a company to produce hydrogen at a low enough cost to make profit similar to that of petrolium, though the push to sell petrolium will still be greater because it can be sold for much higher.

I mean how can a company charge a lot for hydrogen? They can't say we are running out, we never will, they can't impose some green tax on it, water isn't harmful to the environment last I checked, so the only way for it to be better is to make engines and the actual process of getting hydrogen much more efficient
 
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