Networking dsl- Router?

[Da Mail Man]

greetings,
if a person has DSL and uses phone lines, how can that person add additional computers onto that internet connection?. for example; if you have cable high speed internet, the cable goes into the cable modem and then into a router with multiple ports. from there you can connect cat5 cables and run to other computers. with DSL, you run a phone line from the wall telephone jack to a dsl modem and exit the modem with another phone line cable and into the computer it goes. what do ya do about DSL that uses phone lines? most of the routers i have seen and use (linksys) have ports for cat 5 only.......thanks!

 

[The_Other_One]

The signal does not exit the modem by phone. It uses standard cat 5 ethernet or some use USB depending on the modem.

 

[Da Mail Man]

The signal does not exit the modem by phone. It uses standard cat 5 ethernet or some use USB depending on the modem.

...it doesn't?...i was told that it did....so then a standard router or switch will function for the purpose of additional computers, correct?

 

[The_Other_One]

Yup... Any router should work just fine with a DSL modem. A switch might. Many modems do function as a router now, so that all depends.

 

[OvenMaster]

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[Da Mail Man]

I got DSL and a Linksys router feeding two PCs. No problem at all.
Tom

....a-ok and thanks for the help and clarification!

 

[Deepblue]

I know I said this before but DSL is a little different then cable because of the need for a user name and pw, by default when you get the DSL modem the username and PW is setup in the modem and in a single system setup this is fine, but when you have a router between the modem and the system you can have problems getting the modem to make the connection to your ISP.

What needs to be done is to set the modem on a bridge ethernet connection and set the PPPoE connection and the user name and PW in the router

These steps are from one of my earlier post

DSL is a little different then just pluging stuff in and tunring it on below are the steps need to set up a DSL account on a router.

step 1) plug one system into the modem and enter the ip of 192.168.1.254 in your IE address bar, in the login box enter the user name and PW for your DSL account. this will take you into the modem setup. look for the configuration link and click it this will take you to the connection info page and you should see it set to PPPoE you will need to change this to Bridged ethernet and save the settings. this will reboot the modem.

step 2) now plug the internet port of your router into the modem and plug your PCs into the router now enter 192.168.1.1 into the IE address bar
this will bring up the router login page enter the user name and PW for you make of router. now on the genrel tab change the connection type to PPPoE and enter your DSL account name and PW and save the setting.
your systems should have internet access now. this is all that needs to be done.
on the status tab of your router you can see if you have a connection and the IP info assigned to you by your ISP

if you have any issue with accessing the internet , power off all equipment.
power up the modem and let it boot completely ( lights will stop blinking fast and get steady)
power up the router and let it boot completely
power on the PCs

 

[Da Mail Man]

I know I said this before but DSL is a little different then cable because of the need for a user name and pw, by default when you get the DSL modem the username and PW is setup in the modem and in a single system setup this is fine, but when you have a router between the modem and the system you can have problems getting the modem to make the connection to your ISP.

What needs to be done is to set the modem on a bridge ethernet connection and set the PPPoE connection and the user name and PW in the router

These steps are from one of my earlier post

DSL is a little different then just pluging stuff in and tunring it on below are the steps need to set up a DSL account on a router.

step 1) plug one system into the modem and enter the ip of 192.168.1.254 in your IE address bar, in the login box enter the user name and PW for your DSL account. this will take you into the modem setup. look for the configuration link and click it this will take you to the connection info page and you should see it set to PPPoE you will need to change this to Bridged ethernet and save the settings. this will reboot the modem.

step 2) now plug the internet port of your router into the modem and plug your PCs into the router now enter 192.168.1.1 into the IE address bar
this will bring up the router login page enter the user name and PW for you make of router. now on the genrel tab change the connection type to PPPoE and enter your DSL account name and PW and save the setting.
your systems should have internet access now. this is all that needs to be done.
on the status tab of your router you can see if you have a connection and the IP info assigned to you by your ISP

if you have any issue with accessing the internet , power off all equipment.
power up the modem and let it boot completely ( lights will stop blinking fast and get steady)
power up the router and let it boot completely
power on the PCs

....oh oh..now this is getting complcated!...ya mean ta tell me that this won't work similarly to a cable internet connection as mentioned above?...the dsl issues are for a friend of mine and not myself...as with cable etc, i simply whack in all teh cables abd boot up and i'm on!....ugh!

 

[Deepblue]

just pluging in all the stuff like you do for cable is a shot in the dark so to speak with DSL. you will have disconnections and have a hard time getting them back because of the way that DSL is not a ALWAYS ON ISP like cable.

Its not as bad as it sounds. I walk people thru this all the time on the phone at my job.
just print out the step and follow them and you will be fine.

 

[Da Mail Man]

just pluging in all the stuff like you do for cable is a shot in the dark so to speak with DSL. you will have disconnections and have a hard time getting them back because of the way that DSL is not a ALWAYS ON ISP like cable.

Its not as bad as it sounds. I walk people thru this all the time on the phone at my job.
just print out the step and follow them and you will be fine.

....ok, thanks again.....it may be a week or so before this happens but, i will post the results as to what happens and THANKS AGAIN!

 

[The_Other_One]

Not all DSL modems need this PPPoE stuff configured. As I mentioned before, many come with router functions, such as this, DHCP, and other things. Simply connecting a switch to some is enough to share the connection

 

[tlarkin]

Not all DSL modems need this PPPoE stuff configured. As I mentioned before, many come with router functions, such as this, DHCP, and other things. Simply connecting a switch to some is enough to share the connection

If the user's ISP uses PPoE then they must configure it in the router for NAT to bridge the connections between LAN and WAN because PPoE requires authentication to allow connection.

You are correct though, not all DSL ISPs use it, but PPoE is mostly common with DSL and not with cable.

 

[The_Other_One]

I'm not saying ISPs don't use it... I'm just saying some routers connect and everything without requiring a router. I know my grandparent's modem does so. I don't know exactly what it uses as I don't play with their setup much...