Looks like Windows 7 beats 10...

Agent Smith

Agent Smith

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in the patch department. And in other news. Android is FUBAR.

https://www.bleepingcomputer.com/news/security/android-was-2016s-most-vulnerable-product/


According to CVE Details, a website that aggregates historical data on security bugs that have received a CVE identifier, during 2016, security researchers have discovered and reported 523 security bugs in Google's Android OS, winner by far of this "award."

Second place in this ranking went to Debian Linux with 319 vulnerabilities, while third place went to Ubuntu Linux with 278 CVEs.

The rest of the top 10 is made up by Adobe Flash Player (266 bugs), openSUSE Leap (259 bugs), openSUSE (228 bugs), Adobe Acrobat DC (227 bugs), Adobe Acrobat Reader DC (227 bugs), Adobe Acrobat (224 bugs), and the Linux Kernel (216 bugs).

2015's winner, Mac OS X came only eleventh this year, with 215 security bugs, compared to last year, when researchers found 444 bugs in Apple's main OS.
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What does Windows 7 beats 10 in the patch department even mean? 7 has more patches? Or 10 does? Or 7's patches are released more frequently? Or something else entirely?

Number of open vulnerabilities isn't necessarily a good measure of security. The severity makes a huge difference. I'm not saying android or anything else don't have problems, but just counting open bugs isn't the full story.
 
Android is great if you get a high end phone which gets monthly or quarterly security updates, and has a more recent version of the Android OS. Cheap budget phones typically run an OS that is several versions behind, and never receives security updates.
 
Darren said:
This is all kind of useless since security of a device is almost entirely dependent on the user. You can't fix stupid with security patches.
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Unreal. You can't fix stupid alright. If the damn device/computer has patch vulnerabilities, how the hell is the user going to do anything about that? It's the same thing as a browser having patch vulnerabilities or Flash, Java, etc.

There's a lot of fing stupid on this forum. I posted this same link on another forum and I got a waaay better discussion. Here it's like everyone saying, "oh no, it's perfectly fine. Win 10 is not missing patches and Android is not vulnerable."

Pathetic!
 
Agent Smith said:
Here it's like everyone saying, "oh no, it's perfectly fine.
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No one said that.
Agent Smith said:
Win 10 is not missing patches and Android is not vulnerable."
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Also no one said that.


Agent Smith said:
There's a lot of fing stupid on this forum.
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Since you're describing this forum as a whole and that you're part of this forum. Are you suggesting that you're fing stupid? If so, this might be the only thing I've ever nodded in agreement with you.
 
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Agent Smith said:
The simple fact you had to add FoxNews means your some kind of special since they DOMINATE the ratings. But I get it, you're a leftest snowflakes that's butt hurt by Trump.
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So because someone thinks that Fox News is not a reliable source for non-biased news reporting, they're automatically portrayed as a lefty?

Agent Smith said:
Back on topic, no one needs to saying anything
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So you wanted discussion by having no one needing to say anything? Deep.
Agent Smith said:
. But the entire gest of the conversation is like a 180 degree speculation on patches.
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Not really. Are you reading the same thread as everyone else?
Agent Smith said:
It sounds as if people are saying nothing to see here move along.
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For the 3rd time, no one said that.
 
Geoff said:
Android is great if you get a high end phone which gets monthly or quarterly security updates, and has a more recent version of the Android OS. Cheap budget phones typically run an OS that is several versions behind, and never receives security updates.
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for samsung products, and other non nexus flagship phones, there is also a delay between android releases a security patch and then when a company like Samsung gets around to releasing the security patch for their phone. Then in some instances there is a third layer where it is dependant on the mobile phone carrier to release the update to the end user. Doesn't seem like an ideal situation to me, thats why going forward I would only consider a google pixel or iphone.
Not to mention that those flagship android phone makers (google pixel excluded) are not transparent with how long they will provide security updates. That might be fine for people who change their phone every other month, but for people who keep their phone for a few years, that is another downside.
I think equally important as the number of security vulnerabilities discovered, is the time that it has taken to push security fixes out to the end user.
 
Geoff said:
Android is great if you get a high end phone which gets monthly or quarterly security updates, and has a more recent version of the Android OS.
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ian said:
there is also a delay between android releases a security patch and then when a company like Samsung gets around to releasing the security patch for their phone.
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I have a Galaxy Tab S LTE which was released to market in 2014. It didn't get Android v6 until a year after the release of Marshmallow, but it did eventually get it. Since then I have been getting security updates regularly for that version. For example, I received a 250 MB update yesterday.

Even though the tablet is more than capable of running Android 7, I don't think Samsung is going to update it to that version.
 
WhoX said:
I have a Galaxy Tab S LTE which was released to market in 2014. It didn't get Android v6 until a year after the release of Marshmallow, but it did eventually get it. Since then I have been getting security updates regularly for that version. For example, I received a 250 MB update yesterday.

Even though the tablet is more than capable of running Android 7, I don't think Samsung is going to update it to that version.
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Do you know when security updates will stop?
With iOS if you get the latest version of iOS you are likely to get security updates for the life of that version.
 
ian said:
Do you know when security updates will stop?
With iOS if you get the latest version of iOS you are likely to get security updates for the life of that version.
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Since the Tab S is a flagship device, I think they might continue Android 6 security updates for the foreseeable future. Samsung is frustratingly silent about support for older devices.
 
WhoX said:
Since the Tab S is a flagship device, I think they might continue Android 6 security updates for the foreseeable future. Samsung is frustratingly silent about support for older devices.
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I don't think they have policies about supporting android 6
Looking at the Samsung security website, they have only listed the Samsung tab s2 from 2015 as receiving quarterly updates, there is no mention of the tab s.
security.samsungmobile.com/introsm.html
 
I think you took what I said a little to literally. Of course an OS with better security is going to be more secure but making a broad assumption that 7 is better than 10 because of a security patch count is pretty pointless. Between the two they're going to be fairly similar with overall likelehood of getting infected/hacked/whatever is more dependent on the user than some arbitrary "patch" count.

Also, chill out and stop trying to whip people into a political frenzy for the sake of petty insults. Nothing makes you dumber than a statements such as this. "But I get it, you're a leftest snowflakes that's butt hurt by Trump.". What the actual hell does that have to do with a conversation about OS security?
 
ian said:
Looking at the Samsung security website, they have only listed the Samsung tab s2 from 2015 as receiving quarterly updates, there is no mention of the tab s.
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This is what I mean about them being frustratingly silent about support for older devices. Official announcements are rare. But, as you can see below they are active with their updates. The update is from December 2016...just received it this week.

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Agent Smith said:
When you do that expect me to lash out. I'm a very long time 20 year viewer of FoxNews. It's on my TV all day long and it's only lefest shills that hate FoxNews. So since Fox was mentioned I went there.
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I fully expect you not to lash out and act like a child just because somebody disagrees with you. If you want to contribute to this forum then some basic decency to others is fair to expected of you. :)
 
I'm going to cut the FoxNews off topic and put it in a separate thread. I'll also remove the insults so we can keep a civil discussion from now on.
 
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