Computer obsolescence?

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wonderboy1953

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What I mean is, can you picture where as soon as you get a computer, it goes obsolete in a month's time? Or do you think that the market will force a limit as to when you can upgrade (say, e.g., over a six-month period, but no shorter than that)?
 
Are you asking if we shouldn't be allowed to upgrade for 6 months then id say hell no. I would never let ANYONE delay advancement in technology as it hurts us. If your asking how long your PC is considered "top of the line" then it depends. If you buy a Best Buy computer then expect it to be considered low end when you leave the store, if you build your PC then it can be 3+ years before it starts to fall behind.

My system will be 3 years old next month I believe and it still dominates and I put around $1200 into it at the time, so that is a $400 a year computer which isn't too bad. I expect to get at least another year out of the CPU and GPU will depend on the games coming out :P
 
Economics

What I'm saying is that market forces may limit how often manufacturers can turn out new computers as computer technology advances.

How many people would be able to spend more than $1,000 a year for a computer system? Many people may have the desire to get a new computer, but may not be able to afford one. The marketplace would have the final say in how often computer technology would produce new computers so in the meantime, many would have to settle for new hard drives (or SSDs) or programs or other ways to achieve whatever the user desires.

So I'm expecting for us to run into a wall at some point (unless manufacturers can at least keep costs the same and possibly reduce them).
 
wonderboy1953 said:
So I'm expecting for us to run into a wall at some point (unless manufacturers can at least keep costs the same and possibly reduce them).
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Its not always the manufacturers fault with the pricing. If you have a computer with a 990x intel, then the company has to cahrge 1000 to even break even with the processor, then take in account the PSU, RAM, HDD, GPU, Mother board, and other odds and ends, add the time that it takes them to assemble it and say 10% for profit and you see the 1700+ dollars for the system.

And, whats cutting edge, and what will do what is needed isn't always the same thing. Does someone really need to have a 2500K and GTX580 to play the current games, or could you theoretically still use a GTS260 and a C2D?
 
I am not sure, general market is not the first place they hit as corporations and businesses have no problem spending high dollar. After they cash in there they got the 3 tiers of PC users to cash in on (general consume being last). I read a article on TomsHardware saying the theoretical limit is 15nm which is retardly small. After they might hit a wall if they don't have a solution....which so far seems they are looking into light based processors. So we got a ways to go as far as hardware limits and sales are still high so who knows what is next.


wolfeking said:
And, whats cutting edge, and what will do what is needed isn't always the same thing. Does someone really need to have a 2500K and GTX580 to play the current games, or could you theoretically still use a GTS260 and a C2D?
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Indeed, however id love a 2500k @ 4.4ghz+ and 12GB of ram atm...compressing about 500GB worth of backups and it is painfully slow process :P
 
compression always takes time.
Couldnt you use direct-compute with your GTX260 to help do everything faster with that compression. It should have ann option in the nvidia control panel that says "add run wth GPU in context menu" once you enable that, you can right click and run your data program using the GPU as teh main processor.

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My computers go obsolete when they no longer run the software I need.

Ancient Machine is doing just fine for web browsing and flash games (I set it up for my younger siblings). I'm also predicting my 1.5yo laptop will last as my main computer for 3-4 more years (or until it implodes).
 
hmmm. implosions. thats an interesting idea.

But that idea that you stated there is one way to view it. Whats it matter as long as it works for what you want.
Like for work, I needed a laptop with a serial port to handle the receipt printer that I have. Thats not something you can still find these days.
 
hackapelite said:
My computers go obsolete when they no longer run the software I need.

Ancient Machine is doing just fine for web browsing and flash games (I set it up for my younger siblings). I'm also predicting my 1.5yo laptop will last as my main computer for 3-4 more years (or until it implodes).
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That's what I tell people at work when they are looking for a computer that will last. more or less, the more powerful a computer you get now, the longer it will stand up to new operating systems, updates, new software, new games, and the likes.
Also, one thing that hits the life of the computer pretty hard is user maintenance. So I imagine if people could ever learn how to properly care for their systems, the overall life expectancy will increase.
 
Extending the life of a drive

"So I imagine if people could ever learn how to properly care for their systems, the overall life expectancy will increase." As an offshoot to this, my friend says that defragging the system would help extend the life of a drive.
 
wonderboy1953 said:
"So I imagine if people could ever learn how to properly care for their systems, the overall life expectancy will increase." As an offshoot to this, my friend says that defragging the system would help extend the life of a drive.
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Yes technically, but hardware manufacturers wouldn't be so happy about that would they? Anyways, the market is fueled by consumers, not producers. If consumers do not buy new hardware every few months or years then producers would have no one to sell to.
 
To be honest folks I expect the increase in the cost of other items will preempt the purchase of newer higher power computers. As Asia gains wealth those billions of people will demand a larger share of the world's resources forcing competition for available oil and food and pushing up the price. There will be little left for recreational computer use. Businesses usually do not need more power and usually use their old windows 98 and or windows XP machines as long as they will run. To business a computer is a tool, not a lifestyle.
 
All desktop should last for about 5 years before it is obsolete. My mom had an older HP pavillion desktop that she's been using for about 8 years. She only got a new one because she want and LCD display and a bigger HDD.

When thinking of life expectancy of a rig always build with current technology so it last longer then when that rig is obsolete something 20x better will be on the market.
 
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