I5-9600K RTX 3070 bottleneck - Possible upgrades and cooling?

G

Gapehorne

New Member
I've recently discovered a bottleneck between my CPU and GPU, which makes me consider purchasing a new CPU. However, I'm uncertain about the best CPU option for my needs without having to max out the best CPU on the market. Additionally, I'm unsure whether a superior CPU would require a better cooler beyond the "Be quiet! Pure Rock 2."

I enjoy playing a wide range of games, with some being more graphically demanding than others. However, I prefer to have the capability to play high-demanding graphical games at least on moderate settings when necessary.

Please feel free to ask if you require further details for my question. I'm relatively new to the world of computers, so I'm still in the learning process.
 
G

Gapehorne

New Member
johnb35 said:
If you can list the games you play that would help out.
Click to expand...
My gaming spans across a wide list of titles with some more frequently played than others. Among Some of the games i play are Ark Survival, Manor Lords, Age of Empires III, World of Warcraft, Subnautica, PUBG, Hogwarts Legacy, and Warhammer.
 
Intel_man

Intel_man

VIP Member
You got a specific budget?

For gaming, I'd probably suggest any of the AMD X3D chips at this point. Would probably suggest you look into the 7800X3D, or if the budget's a bit tighter, the old 5800X3D but that would be buying onto a dead platform.
 
johnb35

johnb35

Administrator
Staff member
Gapehorne said:
My gaming spans across a wide list of titles with some more frequently played than others. Among Some of the games i play are Ark Survival, Manor Lords, Age of Empires III, World of Warcraft, Subnautica, PUBG, Hogwarts Legacy, and Warhammer.
Click to expand...
Unless i'm missing something. With all those games you should be exceeding recommended system requirements. Are you sure you are running lastest driver for the video card?
 
G

Gapehorne

New Member
Intel_man said:
You got a specific budget?

For gaming, I'd probably suggest any of the AMD X3D chips at this point. Would probably suggest you look into the 7800X3D, or if the budget's a bit tighter, the old 5800X3D but that would be buying onto a dead platform.
Click to expand...
Sorry for the late respond. Is the AMD 7800X3D worth investing in? At first glance, the lack of performance in the single core benchmark makes the price seems rather steep. To me it also seems like many i5 models from the 12600 series and onwards outperform it while being more budget-friendly.
 
G

Gapehorne

New Member
johnb35 said:
Unless i'm missing something. With all those games you should be exceeding recommended system requirements. Are you sure you are running lastest driver for the video card?
Click to expand...
I agree. All my drivers are up to date, unfortunately. I've noticed significant performance issues in Ark Survival, Battlefield V, and Hogwarts, particularly experiencing huge FPS drops in certain areas. Upon investigating potential causes, I came across the bottleneck issue.
The website linked above also indicates a bottleneck in my system. However, I'm hesitant to fully rely on this conclusion. But if it's not a bottleneck, then what else could be causing the troubles?
 
C

Couriant

Member
What is the exact parts you have (PSU, Mobo, Storage Drive (inc free space), etc)? Be detailed
johnb35 said:
Unless i'm missing something. With all those games you should be exceeding recommended system requirements. Are you sure you are running lastest driver for the video card?
Click to expand...
I agree. Even AoE 3 requirements for memory is 1GB of RAM. How are you playing these games? Are you using a no-cd option to play?

How did you discover it? Did you just go to that site?
 
G

Gapehorne

New Member
Intel_man

Intel_man

VIP Member
Gapehorne said:
Click to expand...
I wouldn't rely on that for gaming performance at all. The 7800X3D would lay a smack down on the i5 12600, especially games that are cache demand heavy (i.e. simulation games, or lots of physics based calculations).
Gapehorne said:
I didn't monitor memory usage while playing, so it's certainly plausible. So adding an additional 16 GB of memory could potentially solve the issue? To test this, do you know of any well known programs that can measure various parameters of the computer's performance during gaming?
Click to expand...
If you have a 2nd monitor, just have task manager opened and check if your memory usage is pegged at max. It's been a long time since I've used a machine with 16gb of ram, but when games that utilize ram that exceeds your installed capacity, it starts to cache that into your main drive (typically) and that's where the stutters occur. Accessing files stored in ssd/hdd's for memory access is very high latency compared to ram resulting in stuttering effects.

If not, you can download HWinfo and setup the program to log/monitor your machine and you can go back to the log and review the usage.
 
C

Couriant

Member
Considering some of the games (Manor Lords and Hogwarts) have minimum requirement if 8GB (or 16GB depending on the site) then it sounds like that the RAM would be the first thing to update, but I would also agree to monitor the system as outlined by Intel_Man to confirm.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Top